Public Transport

The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS (West Torrens) (15:49): My question is to the Minister for Infrastructure and Transport. Have there been any loser fees or incentive payments introduced into the process of outsourcing South Australia's train network tender process after it began?

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD (Gibson—Minister for Infrastructure and Transport, Minister for Recreation, Sport and Racing) (15:49): Again, I think I have outlined this very clearly to the member. That contract process is continuing. No contract has been signed, so that is continuing and that is evolving as we speak. I am happy to take that on notice, but I just think it's a little bit rich in this place when those on the other side want to talk to us—

Members interjecting:

The SPEAKER: Order!

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: —about outsourcing, in particular the member for West Torrens who outsourced $5 billion worth of South Australian assets: the lands titles office, the Motor Accident Commission—

Members interjecting:

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: And I know you don't like to hear it on that side.

The SPEAKER: Order! The minister will resume his seat. The member for Lee on a point of order.

The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN: Standing order 98, again, sir.

The SPEAKER: The question follows a number of questions on this topic. It was quite specific.

Members interjecting:

The SPEAKER: Order! The question was quite specific. It went to whether any loser fee or incentive payment had been made. In the circumstances it called for a specific answer. I will give the minister an opportunity to direct himself to the question. The minister.

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: The point I was making with the $5 billion of assets the member for West Torrens sold off under the nose of South Australians—

The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN: Mr Speaker—

The SPEAKER: The member for Lee on a point of order.

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: —the lands titles office, the Motor Accident Commission—

The SPEAKER: The minister will resume his seat.

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: —the forests, lotteries—the list goes on, sir.

The SPEAKER: The minister will resume his seat. The member for Lee on a point of order.

The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN: Not within the first five words did he not come to the substance of the question. When you—

The Hon. C.L. Wingard: I've got four minutes.

The SPEAKER: Order!

The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN: —asked him to stop so that you could hear the point of order, he defied your ruling, sir.

The SPEAKER: Order! What's the point of order, member for Lee?

The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN: First of all, standing order 98, and also not obeying a ruling of the Speaker, sir.

The SPEAKER: I have the point of order. I am prepared to hear the minister for more than just a few seconds, member for Lee. I have directed the minister specifically to the question. I call the minister.

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: Thank you, sir. Again, I return to the lands titles office, the Motor Accident Commission, the forests and the lotteries—$5 billion worth of state assets that the member for West Torrens sold and privatised on South Australians. He may want to ask himself the question whether any of those contracts were written into the deals that he did. But I stress the point again—

The Hon. A. Koutsantonis: Were any of those contracts written into the deal?

The SPEAKER: Order!

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: —that the negotiations for the outsourcing of the trains, that contract is not signed and the negotiations are continuing.