House of Assembly Fifty-Fourth Parliament, Second Session (54-2) 54 2 Parliament of South Australia House of Assembly published Question Time Public Transport Public Transport The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS House of Assembly West Torrens Public Transport The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS (West Torrens) (15:49): My question is to the Minister for Infrastructure and Transport. Have there been any loser fees or incentive payments introduced into the process of outsourcing South Australia's train network tender process after it began? The Hon. C.L. WINGARD House of Assembly Gibson Minister for Infrastructure and Transport Minister for Recreation Public Transport The Hon. C.L. WINGARD (Gibson—Minister for Infrastructure and Transport, Minister for Recreation, Sport and Racing) (15:49): Again, I think I have outlined this very clearly to the member. That contract process is continuing. No contract has been signed, so that is continuing and that is evolving as we speak. I am happy to take that on notice, but I just think it's a little bit rich in this place when those on the other side want to talk to us— Members interjecting: The Speaker House of Assembly The SPEAKER: Order! The Hon. C.L. WINGARD House of Assembly The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: —about outsourcing, in particular the member for West Torrens who outsourced $5 billion worth of South Australian assets: the lands titles office, the Motor Accident Commission— Members interjecting: The Hon. C.L. WINGARD House of Assembly The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: And I know you don't like to hear it on that side. The Speaker House of Assembly The SPEAKER: Order! The minister will resume his seat. The member for Lee on a point of order. The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN House of Assembly The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN: Standing order 98, again, sir. The Speaker House of Assembly The SPEAKER: The question follows a number of questions on this topic. It was quite specific. Members interjecting: The Speaker House of Assembly The SPEAKER: Order! The question was quite specific. It went to whether any loser fee or incentive payment had been made. In the circumstances it called for a specific answer. I will give the minister an opportunity to direct himself to the question. The minister. The Hon. C.L. WINGARD House of Assembly The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: The point I was making with the $5 billion of assets the member for West Torrens sold off under the nose of South Australians— The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN House of Assembly The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN: Mr Speaker— The Speaker House of Assembly The SPEAKER: The member for Lee on a point of order. The Hon. C.L. WINGARD House of Assembly The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: —the lands titles office, the Motor Accident Commission— The Speaker House of Assembly The SPEAKER: The minister will resume his seat. The Hon. C.L. WINGARD House of Assembly The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: —the forests, lotteries—the list goes on, sir. The Speaker House of Assembly The SPEAKER: The minister will resume his seat. The member for Lee on a point of order. The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN House of Assembly The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN: Not within the first five words did he not come to the substance of the question. When you— The Hon. C.L. Wingard House of Assembly The Hon. C.L. Wingard: I've got four minutes. The Speaker House of Assembly The SPEAKER: Order! The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN House of Assembly The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN: —asked him to stop so that you could hear the point of order, he defied your ruling, sir. The Speaker House of Assembly The SPEAKER: Order! What's the point of order, member for Lee? The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN House of Assembly The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN: First of all, standing order 98, and also not obeying a ruling of the Speaker, sir. The Speaker House of Assembly The SPEAKER: I have the point of order. I am prepared to hear the minister for more than just a few seconds, member for Lee. I have directed the minister specifically to the question. I call the minister. The Hon. C.L. WINGARD House of Assembly The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: Thank you, sir. Again, I return to the lands titles office, the Motor Accident Commission, the forests and the lotteries—$5 billion worth of state assets that the member for West Torrens sold and privatised on South Australians. He may want to ask himself the question whether any of those contracts were written into the deals that he did. But I stress the point again— The Hon. A. Koutsantonis House of Assembly The Hon. A. Koutsantonis: Were any of those contracts written into the deal? The Speaker House of Assembly The SPEAKER: Order! The Hon. C.L. WINGARD House of Assembly The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: —that the negotiations for the outsourcing of the trains, that contract is not signed and the negotiations are continuing.