Privatisation

The Hon. K.J. MAHER (Leader of the Opposition) (14:35): Supplementary, and a very simple one, Mr President, taking on your advice: can the Treasurer give a definition to the chamber of 'privatisation'?

The Hon. R.I. LUCAS (Treasurer) (14:35): I refer the honourable member to either the Macquarie, the Oxford or any number of other dictionaries, Mr President.

The Hon. K.J. Maher: You don't know.

The Hon. R.I. LUCAS: I do know. The Leader of the Opposition is the one who doesn't know because he's asking me the question. He clearly doesn't understand; I know. I am very comfortable in my own skin. The Leader of the Opposition is the one who doesn't know. He's the one asking me the question. Well, I'm not going to assist you, Mr President; you go off and learn for yourself. You go off and learn for yourself—sorry, the Leader of the Opposition should go off, not you, Mr President. The Leader of the Opposition should go off and learn the difference. We have made it quite clear that we will not be selling the trains, we will not be selling the trams, we will not be selling the tracks, we will not be selling the train stations, but we will be looking at outsourcing the operations, as has occurred with the buses for 20 years, or more.

The PRESIDENT: Further supplementary, Leader of the Opposition.