Skills for All

The Hon. R.I. LUCAS (14:32): Mr President, a supplementary question arising out of the answer: will the minister seek advice and bring back an answer to reconcile the fact that the chief executive at the time, Mr Ray Garrand, on 2 May 2013 wrote to the Budget and Finance Committee and in that correspondence indicated the baseline numbers pre Skills for All in 2010-11 for training places was 86,561, and will she take advice and bring back a reply to reconcile Mr Garrand's reply on 2 May 2013 with the figure that she is going to identify the source of 64,000 which she has claimed in this house?

The Hon. G.E. GAGO (Minister for Employment, Higher Education and Skills, Minister for Science and Information Economy, Minister for the Status of Women, Minister for Business Services and Consumers) (14:32): The opposition can go sort out their own confusion—

The Hon. R.I. Lucas: No, there's no confusion. This is your CEO, rampaging Ray Garrand—

The PRESIDENT: Order!

The Hon. G.E. GAGO: Mr President, they come into this place with all sorts of assertions, all sorts of inaccurate information. Mr President, they are bringing in incorrect—

The Hon. R.I. Lucas: He's your man!

The Hon. G.E. GAGO: —inaccurate information—

The Hon. R.I. Lucas: He's your man!

The PRESIDENT: The Hon. Mr Lucas, please refrain.

The Hon. G.E. GAGO: —all the time. They can sort out their own confusion. What I'm happy to do, my responsibility, is to provide the source of information and I'm quite happy to do that.

Members interjecting:

The PRESIDENT: The Hon. Mr Ridgway, it is standing order 452. The Hon. Ms Lensink.

Members interjecting:

The PRESIDENT: The Hon. Ms Lensink has the floor.