Electric Trains

Mr WINGARD (Mitchell) (15:05): My question is to the Minister for Transport. As there are five excess electric trains that cannot be used on the unelectrified Gawler line, how much longer will commuters on the northern line have to continue to use the 30-year old 2000 series Jumbo trains?

The Hon. S.C. MULLIGHAN (Lee—Minister for Transport and Infrastructure, Minister Assisting the Minister for Planning, Minister Assisting the Minister for Housing and Urban Development) (15:05): I am confused because the member for Mitchell said in his first series of questions that these were excess trains and then, when he was embarrassed by my response, he claimed that they were underutilised and now he is back to saying there are excess trains. It is the same thing. Despite telling the house that it is not the same thing, he is now embarrassed into saying that it is the same thing. It is just tedious and embarrassing for the member for Mitchell.

The SPEAKER: Before I take the member for Stuart's point of order, the Oxford English Dictionary says that indiscipline is a noun meaning a lack of discipline, such as we saw from the Port Adelaide Football Club on Sunday in their qualifying final. The member for Stuart.

Mr VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN: The minister is debating the substance of the question.

The SPEAKER: Yes, I think he is. Member for Adelaide.

Mr WINGARD: Sorry, sir, I didn't get an answer to that question. I would have had a supplementary if I had known he wasn't going to answer the question.

The SPEAKER: I have called the member for Adelaide.