Estimates Vote

South Australia Police, $833,967,000

Administered Items for South Australia Police, $59,000

Department of Planning, Transport and Infrastructure, $743,934,000

Administered Items for the Department of Planning, Transport and Infrastructure, $9,353,000

Minister:

Hon. C.L. Wingard, Minister for Police, Emergency Services and Correctional Services, Minister for Recreation, Sport and Racing.

Departmental Advisers:

Cmmr G. Stevens, Commissioner of Police, South Australia Police.

Ms J. TePohe, Acting Chief Executive, Department of Planning, Transport and Infrastructure.

Ms G. O'Neill, General Manager, Road Safety, Department of Planning, Transport and Infrastructure.

Mr B. Cagialis, Director, Finance and Risk, Department of Planning, Transport and Infrastructure.

Mr S. Johinke, Director, Business Services, South Australia Police.

Mr M. Hanton, Motor Accident Commission.

The CHAIR: The estimates committees are a relatively informal procedure and, as such, there is no need to stand to ask or answer questions. I understand that the minister and the lead speaker for the opposition have agreed an approximate time for the consideration of proposed payments, which will facilitate a change of departmental advisers. Can the minister and the lead speaker for the opposition confirm that the timetable for today's proceedings as previously distributed is accurate?

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: Yes, Chair.

Mr ODENWALDER: I assume so. I do not remember being consulted but I assume someone on my side was consulted.

The CHAIR: You do not remember the member for West Torrens consulting you?

Mr ODENWALDER: I have absolute faith in the member for West Torrens.

The CHAIR: Changes to committee membership will be notified as they occur. Members should ensure the Chair is provided with a completed request to be discharged form. If the minister undertakes to supply information at a later date, it must be submitted to the committee secretary by no later than Friday 26 October 2018. I propose to allow both the minister and the lead speaker for the opposition to make opening statements of about 10 minutes each, should they wish.

There will be a flexible approach to giving the call for asking questions, based on about three questions per member, alternating each side. Supplementary questions will be the exception rather than the rule. A member who is not part of the committee may ask a question at the discretion of the Chair. Questions must be based on lines of expenditure in the budget papers and must be identifiable or referenced.

Members unable to complete their questions during the proceedings may submit them as questions on notice for inclusion in the assembly Notice Paper. There is no formal facility for the tabling of documents before the committee; however, documents can be supplied to the Chair for distribution to the committee. The incorporation of material in Hansard is permitted on the same basis as applies in the house; that is, that it is of a purely statistical nature and limited to one page in length. All questions are to be directed to the minister and not the minister's advisers. The minister may refer questions to advisers for a response, back through him and then through the Chair.

The committee's examinations will be broadcast in the same manner as sittings of the house are broadcast, and that is through the IPTV system within Parliament House and via the web stream linked to the internet. I will now proceed to open the following lines of examination, the portfolio being Road Safety. Our minister is the Minister for Police, Emergency Services and Correctional Services. I declare the proposed payments open for examination and refer members to the Agency Statements, Volume 4. I call on the minister to introduce his advisers and to make an opening statement if he so wishes.

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: Yes, I would like to introduce the people alongside me. To my right I have the SAPOL commissioner, Mr Grant Stevens; to my immediate left, Julienne TePohe, Acting Chief Executive of DPTI; and to the very far left down the end of the table, Gabby O'Neill, General Manager, Road Safety, DPTI. Behind me at the second table, Bill Cagialis, Director, Finance and Risk, DPTI; Stephen Johinke, Director, Business Services, SAPOL; and also with us today is Matthew Hanton, Motor Accident Commission.

The CHAIR: Would you like to make an opening statement, minister?

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: I would like to make a brief opening statement. Thank you, Chair. Road safety in South Australia is tackled in a three-pronged approach. I want to make that clear to this committee and all those present. The Department of Planning, Transport and Infrastructure (DPTI) is one arm, SAPOL is another and the Motor Accident Commission also plays a role.

As the minister involved with road safety, I am responsible for strategy, policy development, speed management and road safety promotions. The Minister for Transport, Infrastructure and Local Government (minister Knoll) is responsible for budget and legislation, and the Treasurer oversees the finances of the Motor Accident Commission. It is, as I said, a three-pronged approach, and that is where the responsibilities lie.

The CHAIR: Thank you, minister. Member for Elizabeth, you may have an opening statement. If not, we will go straight to questions.

Mr ODENWALDER: I will go straight to questions, sir. Could you briefly go over that three-pronged approach again, in terms of ministerial responsibilities?

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: Absolutely. As I said, there is a three-pronged approach for road safety across the board. It involves the Department of Planning, Transport and Infrastructure, for which minister Knoll is responsible; SAPOL, which plays a role in road safety as well; and the Motor Accident Commission, which is responsible to the Treasurer. They are the three elements, and that is the way the responsibilities are distributed.

Mr ODENWALDER: You then are the minister responsible for road safety, and in the DPTI budget lines, it gives you responsibility for road safety. You have said that in the three-pronged approach, minister Knoll was responsible for those lines in DPTI. Can you clarify that for me? Are you responsible for those budget lines?

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: Along with the Minister for Transport, of course. Just to explain: as I said, I am the minister with responsibilities for road safety, which include strategy, policy development, speed management and road safety promotions. The Minister for Transport, Infrastructure and Local Government has responsibility for budget and legislation. Under this government, we have one chief executive reporting to one minister. As the minister responsible for road safety, my role is to drive a strategy and clear vision for the future where deaths on the road become an exception.

The role of Minister for Transport, Infrastructure and Local Government is to provide a budget for the realisation of the strategy, including dedicated road safety programs and infrastructure programs. Together, we are working towards driving a safe system to ensure a joined-up approach to road safety with all three elements.

Mr ODENWALDER: Do you know why the words 'road safety'—

The CHAIR: Member for Elizabeth, I do not know where we are. Are we still opening statements or are we getting a question about responsibilities? If we are—

Mr ODENWALDER: Either way. It can go to Budget Paper 4, Volume 3—

The CHAIR: You know the rules better than almost anybody.

Mr ODENWALDER: I have forgotten, sir; it seems so long ago.

The CHAIR: Well, let me remind you. Where are we?

Mr ODENWALDER: Budget Paper 4, Volume 3, page 162, ministerial responsibilities in DPTI. But it goes to the opening statement anyway. Do you know why the words 'road safety' do not appear in your official designation as commissioned by the Governor? Previous governments have always had a minister for road safety as far as I am aware—certainly as far back as I can remember. Does this reflect a diminished importance of road safety in the eyes of this government?

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: Absolutely not, no. I think the Premier made it very clear when we came into government that we have streamlined a number of departments and the names. Just to have a hundred portfolios lined up alongside a minister's name—

Mr ODENWALDER: I understand the changes in the departments; I am just wondering why there is no minister for road safety, as there has been for as long as I can remember.

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: If I can finish what I was saying. When we came into government, the Premier very clear that the different ministers would have streamlined titles. There was no need to have a hundred different names alongside the different ministers—

Mr ODENWALDER: Oh, okay; I do not remember him saying that, sorry.

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: —so that was something that he made very, very clear. That title was just absorbed within, as I said, a three-pronged approach amongst the three ministers. I do not see a problem with having three ministers focused on this issue; it is a good approach. We are looking at it from a DPTI perspective, as I have outlined in my previous answer, and also from a SAPOL perspective. The Motor Accident Commission, through Treasury, also plays a role.

Mr ODENWALDER: I think you said you were responsible for strategy in the three-pronged approach?

The CHAIR: Member for Elizabeth, I assume we are still on the same page?

Mr ODENWALDER: We are still on the same line, yes, or the opening statement—whichever you prefer. You are responsible for strategy. Can you outline your vision for road safety in South Australia? What do you hope to achieve?

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: I am just trying to find the budget line you are referring to per se.

Mr ODENWALDER: Well, you are responsible for a road safety strategy under this government; I am just asking you what it is.

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: Again, I think it has just rolled over from the previous government's strategy, and that is to head toward zero by 2020. Like you, I hope we are on the same page. We want to reduce the road toll, get it as low as possible—

Mr ODENWALDER: Do you have a target?

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: Yes; I can find that for you. Targets are very much our line. They are on the website and readily available, but I will just grab the details for you. Sorry, it is in the budget: it is 84 for fatals and 600 for serious injuries, or potentially below 600. But the zero target for fatal and serious injuries is what we are heading towards.

Mr ODENWALDER: That is over the next year, is that what you mean?

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: Again, I refer you to page 168 of the budget because it is outlined there, but I am happy to repeat it for you.

Mr ODENWALDER: Please do.

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: The targets are based on the number of fatalities that need to be reduced in order to meet South Australia's road safety targets of less than 80 fatalities and less than 800 serious injuries by the end of 2020. That is what we are shooting for. The number of serious injuries has already fallen below the 2020 target, which is great news. The serious injury targets have not been revised and remain as per the previous year.

You will see from the performance indicators on page 168 of the budget that serious injuries have gone down from 657 in 2016-17 to 622 in 2017-18. The target in 2017-18 was below 600, and it did not quite achieve that. The target for 2018-19 is to get below 600 as well. When the program was put in place to achieve these targets by 2020, 800 was the serious injuries target set. To the credit of people in this caper, and to the credit of the previous government and their work as well, we are down around 600, which is very good.

Mr PICTON: On the same budget line, given that the minister said that essentially this strategy is the same as the previous government's, can the minister confirm that the Road Safety Action Plan 2018-19, released in February this year, is still the policy of the government?

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: Yes. That was released this year and it is continuing.

Mr PICTON: Another question on the same budget line, in terms of the responsibilities. In previous governments there was a list of detailed responsibilities between what was the then minister for road safety and the then minister for transport and infrastructure. Is that the arrangement you have in place between yourself and the Minister for Transport? If so, would you be able to table that—perhaps on notice—for the committee?

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: I would have to check what the arrangement was with the previous government; I am not au fait with that so I would have to get that information first. I can take that on notice, for sure.

Mr PICTON: Obviously I mean for your government, not the previous government.

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: I thought you asked that given the previous government did X—and I do not know what X is. So I could find out what X is, and then you want to compare that with what we are doing in our government, is that the question?

Mr PICTON: The question is: do you have a detailed list of your responsibilities versus the Minister for Transport's responsibilities? If so, can you table them?

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: I will take that on notice and bring it back to the committee.

Mr ODENWALDER: On the same line, page 162, is the minister aware of a report recently published by the director of the Centre of Automotive Safety Research, Jeremy Woolley—

The CHAIR: Is this report in the budget?

Mr ODENWALDER: No.

The CHAIR: No? Remember—

Mr ODENWALDER: Oh come on, I know the rules, Chair.

The CHAIR: No; we know the rules.

Mr ODENWALDER: I am allowed to contextualise it—

The CHAIR: The member for Narrunga has a question.

Mr PICTON: Point of order.

The CHAIR: There is no point of order. The member for Narrunga has the call.

Mr PICTON: Point of order, Chair.

The CHAIR: What is the point of order?

Mr PICTON: You are removing the ability—

The CHAIR: Member for Kaurna, what is the point of order?

Mr PICTON: It is completely in order—

The CHAIR: No, what—

Mr PICTON: —for the member to ask a question—

The CHAIR: Of course it is, absolutely it is.

Mr PICTON: —which is in relation to the budget—

The CHAIR: And do you know what? After—

Mr PICTON: What has the minister got to hide about it—

The CHAIR: After—

Mr PICTON: —a question about a report.

The CHAIR: Member for Kaurna, you are out of order.

Mr PICTON: You have allowed many questions in relation to reports.

The CHAIR: Member for Kaurna, do you want to be up here on Tuesday again or not? Otherwise it is going to be a long—

Mr PICTON: You have allowed many questions in relation to reports over these estimates, and you are refusing this.

The CHAIR: Member for Narrunga, you have the call. You will be heard in silence.

Mr ELLIS: Thank you, Chair. I refer to Budget Paper 5, page 106, regarding Kangaroo Island road safety improvements. Can the minister provide some information about the government's election commitment to improve road safety on Kangaroo Island?

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: I thank the member for his interest in this area and for the question. I am pleased to provide an update to the committee. As the member has noted, the Marshall government made an election commitment to improve road safety on Kangaroo Island, and this has been done through additional directional road pavement arrows; additional road signage to 'drive on the left', or 'drive on the left in Australia'; and a complementary education campaign.

In 2018-19, a budget allocation of $20,000 has been made to deliver these much-needed infrastructure improvements. The Kangaroo Island Council has been consulted and supports this initiative. The cost for providing directional arrows is estimated at $2,000 at each location. The cost for installing each 'drive on the left' sign is estimated at $500. The ideal time for pavement marking to ensure longevity is between October and March in each year. Implementation dates are currently being discussed with the Kangaroo Island Council.

On 28 June 2018, DPTI met with representatives from the Kangaroo Island Council and SAPOL to better understand the council's views about possible measures for improved community road safety. Meetings were also held with the community road safety group to explore the possibility of engaging with the community about ways of reducing crashes on Kangaroo Island. Assistance is being offered to the Kangaroo Island Road Safety Group to develop a social media communications plan in relation to community road safety, and further communication with Kangaroo Island Council will occur to progress this.

It has been a long held view by locals on the island that when tourists come over, keeping them on the right side of the road, which is the left side of the road, is very important, and that is why this process has been put in place. Again, to see DPTI and SAPOL working well on this road safety initiative is absolutely outstanding, and to be engaged with the Kangaroo Island Council and the Kangaroo Island Road Safety Group is another big positive for all involved. This is a great initiative and another one that shows we are supporting our regions. Again, I am very confident this will help make our roads safer on Kangaroo Island.

The CHAIR: Thank you, minister. Member for Elizabeth may ask a question and, if it is about a report, I am sure he will ask it in a question that is ruled in.

Mr ODENWALDER: Maybe I will save it.

The CHAIR: You might save it.

Mr ODENWALDER: Budget Paper 4, Volume 3, page 167. Minister, when will the government fulfil its promise to increase speed limits on some rural roads? I am sure you are prepared for that one.

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: Thank you for that question. It is a good one. This is an election commitment, of course, that is hooked to the election. Again, this is one of those projects on which I am working closely with the Minister for Transport. Just to outline again, the responsibility for speed management and the strategy for that rests with me. The authority to change the speed limits rests with the Minister for Transport, Infrastructure and Local Government. The budget for infrastructure, road safety improvements and road maintenance, again, also rests with the Minister for Transport.

We want to reverse the speed limit reduction—which the previous government did—from 100 km/h back up to 110 km/h on eight country roads. We are evaluating the roads and the safety improvements needed. As you would understand, you need to make sure the roads are up to speed.

Mr ODENWALDER: Why would you not do that before you made the election commitment?

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: Sorry, I was just saying that we will make sure that the roads are improved and the road safety risk is minimised so that we can put them back up. We are working through that. We will deliver that in a timely manner.

Mr ODENWALDER: When?

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: There are a number of projects that need to be done to ensure that the conditions of the roads will be up to spec so that we can do that. Road shoulder sealing is one of those things that we are looking to do. A systematic review of speed limits on the rural network under DPTI is underway, and is expected to be finalised towards the end of the calendar year. The current investment programs allocate $10 million annually to priority shoulder sealing, and we know how important that is if you are going to maintain a road.

Unfortunately, under the previous government, maintenance of roads was very poor, so we want to make sure that is done. During June 2018, complete shoulder sealing was achieved along the final length of the Riddoch Highway. Installation of audio tactile line marking is due for application in the next financial year. This will complete planned works on the Riddoch Highway. So works are being done, and I am working with the minister to make sure we roll that out in a safe and timely manner.

Mr ODENWALDER: Are you saying, then, that those roads are currently unsafe?

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: No. We want to make sure that when we put the speed limits back up, the works have been done, and they are in a safe condition to be able to—

Mr ODENWALDER: Did you know they were unsafe? Did you hold this view when you made the election promise that you were going to change the speed limits back?

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: I am not sure where you are going with the question.

Mr ODENWALDER: I am not going anywhere. It is just a question.

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: My answer is really clear: we want to make sure we do the work on the roads to make sure that we can put the speed limits back up. That is why am working with the Minister for Transport to make sure that the works are done, so that when the speed limit goes back up, the road is in a condition to accommodate that speed limit and everyone will be kept safe on the roads.

Mr ODENWALDER: Did you discuss this election policy, or have you discussed it since the election, with the RAA or the Motor Accident Commission? Can you table any documents about that?

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: Sorry, the second part of that question was?

Mr ODENWALDER: Can you table or provide the committee with any documents about those submissions?

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: What I have said, and I have made it abundantly clear—

The CHAIR: Member for Elizabeth, we are quite clear about what can be tabled and what cannot be tabled in committee, as you well and truly know.

Mr ODENWALDER: You are right, sir. Will you provide any information regarding the RAA's submissions, if there are any, or the Motor Accident Commission's, or indeed any submissions the Centre for Automotive Research made regarding rural speed limits?

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: As I outlined in my previous answer, and I will say it again, I am working with the Minister for Transport in that collective around the roles that we have, which I have outlined from the get-go, and we are making sure that we get the roads into the condition that we need to put the speed limits back up, and that work is being done.

Mr PICTON: I have a question on the same budget line.

The CHAIR: Which is?

Mr PICTON: Budget Paper 4, Volume 3, page 167. Just to clarify: is it the government's position that it is inappropriate to have those roads at 110 km/h without further works required to them?

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: Sorry, what budget line was that?

Mr PICTON: I just said, Budget Paper 4, Volume 3, page 167. In terms of the eight roads that you have promised in your election commitment to increase back to 110, and criticised when they were reduced to 100 km/h, is it the government's position that that can only be done and that they are currently unsafe to be at 110 km/h without road improvements being applied to them?

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: What I did say in the previous answer, because it is the same question—I am very happy with that—is we are doing an assessment on those roads. That is what is underway at the moment. Where works need to be done we will do that before we put the speed limit back up. So we will assess the roads, work out what needs to be done and we will put the speed limits back up at that time.

Mr PICTON: But certainly some works would need to occur for them to be safe at 110 km/h; is that what you are saying?

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: I am sure they would, but that is for the experts to say. We will speak with DPTI and DPTI will provide that to the Minister for Transport. I will liaise with him. He is in charge of the infrastructure area, as I have previously outlined in other questions already this morning. He will work on that, I will work on the road safety strategy and together we will implement that policy.

Mr PICTON: Do you have a time frame of when you are expecting to receive advice on that?

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: Not in front of me, no.

Mr PICTON: I understand there was also a commitment to undertake a review of other speed limits, to potentially increase other speed limits. Is that work underway and do you have a time frame of when you are expecting to receive that report?

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: As I have outlined in a previous answer, and I will just repeat it. You may have missed it, and I apologise. A systematic review of speed limits on the rural network under DPTI control is underway, within its current budget allocation, and is expected to be finalised towards the end of the calendar year.

Mr PICTON: Is that being undertaken within DPTI?

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: Yes.

Mr ODENWALDER: Given the time, we will move on, minister. Budget Paper 4, Volume 3, page 167. You mention there have been improvements for motorcycle safety. That is a target, I think, rather than a highlight. Can you update the committee on what is going on regarding motorcycle safety, given that last year there was quite a comprehensive review handed to the government and work begun on some measures around licensing, etc., for motorcycles? Can you update the committee on what the current government is doing in response to that review?

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: Yes, for sure. I am advised that the report will be coming shortly, but the information I can give the committee is that motorcycle safety improvements are planned in the Adelaide Hills at a cost of around $400,000 annually. This is a major destination for motorcyclists, as you would understand. Motorcycling has become increasingly popular for both leisure and commuting. The Australian Transport Safety Bureau figures show that motorcycling is the most dangerous form of land travel in Australia, at almost 30 times the fatality rate recorded by operators of other vehicle types per million kilometres travelled.

Annually, approximately $400,000 is invested in improving our most popular and challenging motorcycle routes. In 2018-19, the installation of a motorcycle safety barrier, delineation and signage upgrades on Tippett Road and centre-line audio tactile line marking on Gorge Road are planned in the Adelaide Hills. The centre-line audio tactile line marking is the first of its type in the Adelaide Hills, to assist motorbike riders to stay within their travel lane, to reduce the likelihood of head-on collisions with oncoming traffic. These roads are high-speed motorcycle routes with posted speed limits greater than or equal to 70 km/h with a history of motorcycle-related crashes.

Specific motorcycle safety improvements include: motorcycle safety barriers installed below guardrails to provide a more forgiving environment for the rider, reducing the impact of a collision due to the energy-absorbing qualities. They are the barricades that go around the bottom, as you would appreciate and understand.

Mr ODENWALDER: Yes.

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: Other improvements include post caps on the existing guardrail, which are also very beneficial, as well as vertical post protectors on wire rope safety barriers to provide some cushion on impact. Centre-line and edge line audio tactile line marking, delineation and signage upgrades and road service improvements are all things that add to the safety of motorcyclists, of course.

Mr ODENWALDER: Thank you, minister. I probably should have been more specific. I am talking about the review that was handed to the government regarding graduated licensing and things like curfews. There were a whole lot of recommendations made to government last year. I understand some action was taken in regard to some of those measures. Has the current government continued that work?

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: Yes; I am advised that by the end of October I will receive a comprehensive brief to move towards new legislation, which I expect to bring back next year, and which I can bring back to the committee before introducing it to parliament, if that is how it pans out.

Mr ODENWALDER: So you cannot give us any detail now about what work is being done?

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: I said the work is being done and I am expecting a report by the end of October.

Mr ODENWALDER: What work is being done?

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: It is being reviewed. I think I made that very clear.

Mr PICTON: So there will be legislation?

Mr ODENWALDER: There will be legislation introduced next year, you say?

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: I will have a look at the report and, potentially, we will look at what we need to do from there.

Mr ODENWALDER: So you have not decided whether there will be legislation or not: you are just going to look at a review of a review and then make a decision?

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: Sorry; can you say that again? Repeat the question.

Mr ODENWALDER: You have not decided yet whether there will be any legislation at all to make motorcyclists safer?

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: No; we will have a look at the report when it comes in and decisions will be made from there.

Mr ODENWALDER: In the time that is left to us then, I will take you to Budget Paper 4, Volume 3, page 167, Targets. I want to ask you about the road safety camera review, and I have a series of questions about that. The section on that page which details fees, fines and penalties, I assume the bulk of this fine revenue is from fixed safety cameras, is that right?

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: Can I just get you to say the page number again?

Mr ODENWALDER: Yes; 167. Under Income—Fees, fines and penalties. I assume most of that—correct me if I am wrong—comes from fixed safety cameras? Can you confirm that, or indeed how much of that comes from fixed safety cameras?

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: I have just been informed that is not camera revenue: camera revenue is in the police budget.

Mr ODENWALDER: Alright then; no worries. Back to the safety camera review then: can you tell us who is chairing it and how many FTEs are attached to that particular review?

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: I will give you a briefing on that. As you would be aware, this was—

Mr ODENWALDER: Before you do, given the time, I would appreciate knowing when the report is due, will it be made public and how much it is costing in total.

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: Thank you, again. The speed camera audit is nearing completion and cost approximately $40,000, which will be met from within DPTI's existing operational budget.

Mr ODENWALDER: What is that $40,000 for?

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: That is for an independent consultant to do the review.

Mr ODENWALDER: And who is that?

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: Martin Small from Martin Small Consulting.

Mr ODENWALDER: And he is not getting paid anything so much as handed $40,000 for administrative costs or something?

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: No, he is conducting the review. His consultancy firm is conducting the review.

Mr ODENWALDER: How much is he getting paid to conduct the review—$40,000?

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: Yes. The cost of the review is $40,000.

Mr ODENWALDER: Okay. Are there any departmental FTEs attached to this, or is this completely an outside independent review?

The Hon. C.L. WINGARD: I could go and get a breakdown of that for you and bring it back to the committee if you would like a bit more detail.

Mr ODENWALDER: Yes.

The CHAIR: Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen. Unfortunately, time has expired. I declare the examination of the proposed payments for the portfolio of road safety closed. The estimate of payments for South Australia Police and the administered items for South Australia Police is to be adjourned until later today. The estimate of payments for the Department of Planning, Transport and Infrastructure and administered items for the Department of Planning, Transport and Infrastructure are to be adjourned to committee A.