Estimates Committee A: Tuesday, August 02, 2016

Department of Planning, Transport and Infrastructure, $806,024,000

Administered Items for the Department of Planning, Transport and Infrastructure, $9,719,000


Membership:

Mr Whetstone substituted for Mr Pisoni.


Minister:

Hon. L.W.K. Bignell, Minister for Agriculture, Food and Fisheries, Minister for Forests, Minister for Tourism, Minister for Recreation and Sport, Minister for Racing.


Departmental Advisers:

Mr B. Cagialis, Chief Finance Officer, Department of Planning, Transport and Infrastructure.

Ms K. Taylor, Acting Executive Director, Office for Recreation and Sport.

Mr I. Houridis, Director, Facility Development and Infrastructure, Office for Recreation and Sport.

Mr W. Battams, Director, South Australian Sports Institute, Office for Recreation and Sport.

Mr T. Nicholas, Manager, Finance, Office for Recreation and Sport.

Ms. S. Hameister, Racing Industry Support, Office for Recreation and Sport.


The CHAIR: Welcome back everybody to committee A. Thank you for your attendance. As I did last session, if everyone is happy for me not to read the preamble, as long as you all understand that the sentiments are still in force—is everybody happy to remember that the statement contains guidance for behaviour—you do not need me to read it again?

The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL: The member for Unley has gone. He is only one who is badly behaved.

The CHAIR: No need for that. We are going to open the Department of Planning, Transport and Infrastructure proposed payments with the Minister for Recreation and Sport here with us this afternoon. I declare the proposed payments open for examination and refer members to the Agency Statements, Budget Paper 4, Volume 4. I call on the minister to introduce his advisers and to make an opening statement should he wish.

The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL: Thank you very much, Chair, and I welcome all the committee members here today. I acknowledge the member for Chaffey. He has come off the bench and is leading a fine team in this encounter; he is a good sport. We have had a quick discussion. I have around 18 pages of an opening statement. Given that we only have 30 minutes and you agreed to cut it down from the 90 minutes of previous years, I am going to give the highlights.

Firstly, I will introduce the members of the department who are with me today. On my immediate left is the Acting Executive Director, Kylie Taylor, who has really stepped up. I appreciate everything that you have done for us, Kylie. You have overseen some of the biggest spending in the history of recreation and sport in South Australia. Next to Kylie we have Sue Hameister from Racing Industry Support.

On my right is Office for Recreation and Sport Finance Manager, Tim Nicholas. Behind me is Ilia Houridis, Director of Facility Development and Infrastructure. Then we have Bill Cagialis, the Chief Finance Officer of DPTI, and in the middle is Wes Battams. He is the star of the show. He has 49 SASI athletes off to the Olympics. We will be cheering them on and not getting much sleep over the next few weeks. Thank you, Wes, for the great job that you do with the South Australian Sports Institute.

I just want to whiz through a couple of highlights rather than read all this. It has been a fantastic past couple of months for recreation and sport in this state. As a government, we have: put in $10 million to build artificial pitches and upgrade facilities at eight soccer clubs; $7.5 million towards the upgrade of the St Clair Recreation Centre; $5 million to the Port Pirie Regional Council for the redevelopment of the Port Pirie Memorial Oval; and $4.6 million towards transforming the former Ross Smith Secondary School into a sport and recreation facility. I know the member for Torrens is on this committee. She has been a fantastic supporter and has been nagging me all year. I am sure that she is very happy with that, aren't you, member for Torrens?

Further, there is $2 million to build a UCI (Union Cycliste Internationale) standard—bonjour to all our French listeners—BMX track in O'Halloran Hill. That is something the member for Fisher has been badgering me about since before she won the seat, as she thought it was a great idea. So, that is terrific. Chair, another highlight, one that you have been on to us—

The CHAIR: Calisthenics?

The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL: Well, you got your calisthenics money, but $750,000 towards the upgrade of the Modbury Bowling Club. They are just a few of the highlights in a budget that has injected another $40 million into recreation and sport in South Australia.

I also want to comment about the wonderful sports vouchers we brought in for all our primary school students in South Australia. I point out to the member for Mount Gambier—I am sure he is already well aware—that Mount Gambier has the highest take-up in the state of these sports vouchers. Not only are the kids are getting a discount on their sport, which is helping their families, but for 2015 the member for Mount Gambier—he has been working hard out there doorknocking—has 1,065, which is 314 more than any other area. Second is Port Lincoln, with 751. Troy, I do not know what you're doing there, but you are doing a fantastic job. I have gone on long enough with that opening statement, but I would like to thank everyone—Kylie and all her team—for a fantastic job in the past year.

Mr WHETSTONE: Thank you, minister. We will get into the questions, and I refer to Budget Paper 4, Volume 3, page 85, targets. Regarding the selection of the South Australian SASI athletes to the Rio Olympic and Paralympic teams, has the state government ceased funding to the SA Games Appeal Committee, noting that the state government previously committed $700,000 to the committee in 2012 over four years? Will this funding continue?

The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL: No, we have not ceased funding of that; in fact, they go to Rio with our money in their pockets.

Mr WHETSTONE: No, this is for 2016 on.

The CHAIR: Page 83?

Mr WHETSTONE: Page 85, targets.

The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL: Every four years, apparently, they come back to us with a funding proposal; they have not come back to us with a funding proposal for the next four years. We have always supported our athletes; we have done a tremendous job. The South Australian government is the biggest financial contributor to our Olympic athletes who go over to the Olympics every four years, and the Commonwealth Games in the alternate two years in between. Whilst we have not had a formal application, we are always very pleased to support our Olympic and Paralympic athletes.

Mr WHETSTONE: Minister, can you tell me the number of South Australian SASI athletes representing South Australia at the Rio Olympics?

The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL: Yes, 49 in the Olympics.

Mr WHETSTONE: From South Australia?

The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL: From South Australia.

Mr WHETSTONE: Under the SASI program?

The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL: I know all their names, too. Did you want me to go through them? There are two from Berri in the Hockeyroos.

The CHAIR: Just a gender breakdown.

The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL: A very good gender break-up. So, 49 South Australians are recognised and residential athletes who have been selected to go to the 2016 Rio Olympic Games, making up 12 per cent of the total team number of 419. That is pretty good: we have 7 per cent of the population and 12 per cent of the team. They will be competing across 13 sports and 39 events, and 34 of these athletes are current SASI scholarship holders.

The remaining 15, with a few exceptions, have been supported directly by SASI during their career or, as for the beach volleyballers, train daily at SASI with the support of its facilities and staff. Thirty-four, or an impressive 19 per cent, of SASI's current 180 scholarship holders, excluding the Paralympic athletes, have been selected for the games. That is an enormous credit to everyone down at SASI. Wes, please go back and pass on our congratulations to the team down there.

There are 26 athletes making their debut in Rio across 11 sports. The other 23 athletes have a total of 54 Olympic Games attended between them. Our youngest competitor is Kyle Chalmers, who is competing at his first Olympics as an 18 year old in the 100 metre freestyle and the 4 by 100 metre freestyle relay. Our oldest competitor is David Chapman, who is 51. He will be contesting his fourth Games in the 25-metre pistol event.

There are seven athletes who have graduated from the SASI talent search program who are competing in these Games: four cyclists and three rowers. Siblings Alex and Annette Edmondson have been selected on the track cycling team, both for their second Olympics; however, Alex did not actually get to compete in London. In Rio, both athletes are gold medal prospects in their respective team pursuit events. SASI has at least one rider in all 10 of the track cycling events in Rio with genuine medal chances in all of those events.

Of course, we have to single out Anna Meares, who is a favourite of everyone in Australia. She has been picked as the team captain and will be the flag bearer and what a great champion she is. We are very fortunate to have her in South Australia. I know she is an ambassador for the Motor Accident Commission in getting people out there to be sharing the road. She has also done a wonderful job as an ambassador for the Santos Tour Down Under.

Going into the Rio Olympic Games, there are 11 South Australian athletes in close contention to win an Olympic gold medal across seven events. They span the sports of athletics, cycling, swimming and rowing. I reckon all 49 are in for a chance, but Wes has whittled it down to 11.

Jared Tallent in the athletics is in the 50-kilometre walk. It was fantastic to see him get his gold medal recently after the dirty rotten cheat was rubbed out from the London Olympics. What I loved the most was that Bruce McAvaney and the Channel 7 commentary team recalled the commentary, so as he went over the line, Bruce is saying, 'Following in the footsteps of our great athletes from Australia, Marjorie Jackson-Nelson, Herb Elliot,' and did this amazing commentary. What a great thing for the Tallent family to have for future generations, for someone who was only recorded on the day as winning silver and is now an Olympic gold medallist.

James McRae and Alexander Belonogoff are competing in the rowing men's quad. In cycling, in the men's teams pursuit, are Alex Edmondson, Jack Bobridge and Callum Scotson. Matthew Glaetzer is in the cycling sprint. Anna Meares, of course, as we mentioned before, and Stephanie Morton are in the cycling team sprint. Annette Edmondson is in the omnium event in cycling, and in swimming in the men's 4 by 100 metre relay is the youngest member of our team, Kyle Chalmers.

In addition, 18 South Australian athletes are also poised to take silver or bronze medals across 11 events in the sports of cycling, basketball, hockey, volleyball, BMX and water polo. In total, it is expected that SA athletes will contribute to a total of 18 Olympic event medals for Australia. Potential bronze and silver medallists are Alex Hill in the rowing men's four; women's basketball, with Cayla George, Laura Hodges, Erin Phillips and Stephanie Talbot; and women's hockey, with Jane Claxton, Karri McMahon (from the Riverland), Georgie Parker (from the Riverland as well) and Gabrielle Nance. We wish them well.

There are also the Hockeyroos, of course, with Juliet Haslam. So many other South Australians, such as Sandy Pisani, have been members of successful Hockeyroos teams in the past. We wish them all the very best. In women's beach volleyball there are Taliqua Clancy and Louise Bawden; Glenn O'Shea in the cycling omnium; Anna Meares, cycling keirin and the sprint; Stephanie Morton, cycling in the keirin; the women's team pursuit in the cycling; and Sam Willoughby, Happy Valley BMX rider and an inspiration to the member for Fisher, who was instrumental in getting the UCI-rated $2 million development.

I should mention, too, the cooperation of Marion council and Onkaparinga council, which both put in $750,000. We must thank them. It is great to see state and local government working together. Finally, there is Isobel Bishop in the women's water polo. Who will ever forget that great result in Sydney when the Australians beat the Americans with four seconds left on the clock? I was privileged to be there. It was the first time women's water polo had been included in the Olympics and I was there covering it for the ABC. It was one of those magical moments I will never forget.

Mr WHETSTONE: Sadly, that is already on Hansard, minister. I refer to Budget Paper 4, Volume 3, page 86, activity indicators. What is the reasoning behind the 2016-17 projection of 180 fewer grant agreements to be managed and an overall drop in grants managed of 563 since 2013-14?

The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL: There is an answer for this. You might remember back to the 2014-15 financial year, when we went out with an extra $4 million, just to basically clear a fair few of those applications that had been in. I was up and down the length of the state handing out cheques to people. I remember being down in Bordertown and up in Snowtown and Clare. I think the bowls club in Port Broughton got some money. We really got around, handing out the money—$4 million.

That was a one-off payment. We are starting to see all those jobs being completed, so that will come off. What is not in here is the money that we put in for the change rooms: $10 million over four years, with $4 million in the first year. That is to make sure that the women and the girls have the same sort of change facilities that the men and the boys have had for so many years. It is the least they deserve.

We know that the fastest growing area in sport is women's sport, particularly in those sports that have traditionally looked after the blokes and have not always done the right thing by the women and the girls coming through. Maybe they just have not had the vision to see how big this is going to be. We are putting the money in. We are not asking for any co-contribution from councils or the club, because this is our priority. We think it should be everyone's priority to look after women's sport, but we will be putting that $10 million in. That figure has not been added to the figure that you see there, but it is going to make a huge difference.

Mr WHETSTONE: I refer to Budget Paper 4, Volume 3, page 84, financial commentary. The $4.6 million that is going to the Port Adelaide city council for the Ross Smith Secondary School for it to be converted to a sports facility, is that land value or is that money being directed into sports works?

The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL: We are going to give them a grant to purchase the land, and then the council is going to pay for development on that land. Once again, I want to thank the member for Torrens for her persistence, the endless phone calls, the endless grabbing me as I walked in and out of this place and tried to hide—there was no place to hide.

Ms WORTLEY: You tried to avoid me.

The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL: I did try to avoid you. I want to congratulate the member for Torrens on the outstanding work she has done on behalf of her constituents to deliver this deal for them.

Ms WORTLEY: Thank you so much.

Mr WHETSTONE: Have we got clarity? $4.6 million is for the land and then the council will—

The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL: They will build the facility on top of that land. I think that is a win and another great example of state government and local government working together.

Mr WHETSTONE: How many schools has the state government worked with to open access to community sporting organisations or clubs, and how many are currently being used in this way?

The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL: We do not have a figure on that, but what we are doing is working with the education department to make sure that we get as many as possible. I know in my own area, going past the Willunga High School, every Friday night there is touch footy on there with primary school-age kids. On Sundays, it is filled with kids playing soccer. Woodcroft Primary School is in my electorate, but a lot of kids go there from the member for Fisher's area as well. I know the Woodcroft Cricket Club plays its cricket there.

What we would like to do is see as many schools as possible get involved and allow clubs to come in. I know there are always issues around it. The best thing that we can have is people using these assets, not just 9 o'clock to 3 o'clock Monday to Friday but during the school holidays, on weekends and after school. They are government assets, they are community assets, and they should be used by as many people as possible. That is a program that we have been working on for a number of years. Katrine Hildyard, the parliamentary secretary, or assistant minister to the Premier now, is chairing a committee aimed at really pushing that home.

Mr WHETSTONE: Can you take that on notice and just give us how many clubs or sporting organisations are currently being used in that way?

The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL: You are probably better off asking the schools, so go through the education minister and ask how many schools are doing it. What we have with the sporting organisations is that they are run by volunteers. They do not need to fill in another questionnaire from me.

Mr WHETSTONE: Again on page 83, financial commentary, can you give us a breakdown of that $10 million being awarded to FFSA? Which clubs have received that funding?

The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL: Absolutely, and this is something we worked with the Football Federation SA on. I would like to thank that organisation, and in particular Rauf Soulio, who retired just before the announcement was made. I want to put on the record the great work he did over so many years. This was a proposal—they came to us about three years ago—that was a bit underdone. I said, 'Put some more detail around it. We want to make sure that we get a good result,' and they did. Michael Carter, of course, the Chief Executive Officer of Football Federation SA—they should all be congratulated.

The $10 million investment will be delivered through the FFSA to meet the growing interests in the sport, particularly from women. Eight metropolitan football club facilities have been identified from the recent football facilities strategy for development. Participation in football in Australia has considerably increased since the 2006 World Cup, following the Socceroos' defeat of Japan. The sport has shown strong growth among women, with women's football now the fastest growing participant sport in Australia.

There are more than 44,000 registered football players in South Australia and in excess of 350 clubs across the state providing participation opportunities to players. This state government budget measure is to build artificial pitches and upgrade facilities at eight football clubs across Adelaide. Each artificial pitch is equivalent to three natural turf pitches, as there is no limit to the frequency with which games can be played. Of course, we have all seen waterlogged pitches that are just cut up by people playing on them. You do not want to be the last one out there on a Sunday afternoon after Friday night games, Saturday games and Sunday games.

The West Adelaide Hellas Soccer Club at Kilburn will have a new club house, artificial pitches with lighting and an undercover grandstand. The Seaford Rangers at Port Noarlunga South and the South Adelaide Panthers at O'Sullivan Beach will both have new fenced pitches with lighting. The Parks football centre at Angle Park, Adelaide City at Oakden, and the Modbury Soccer Club at Modbury will have new fenced pitches. The West Torrens Birkalla Club at Novar Gardens will get a new pitch, and the White City Football Club at Woodville West will receive new change facilities. The Office for Recreation and Sport will monitor the progress of the government investment provided to the FFSA.

Mr WHETSTONE: I guess the crux of the question was: what was the selection process in choosing those clubs?

The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL: It was the Football Federation South Australia. As I said, they came to me about three years ago talking about the need for artificial pitches. I remember the conversation quite clearly, that they were simply running out of room because of all these people, of all ages and both men and women, who wanted to get out and play. We asked them to go away and do a body of work on places where it would be appropriate to put these facilities. It is good to see a mixture of the north, south, west and north-west in the pitches they have identified.

Mr WHETSTONE: On page 83 again, the summary of grants, how many applications were received for Active Club grants in 2015-16 and how many were successful?

The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL: We had 452 successful applicants who shared in the $2.35 million available through the Active Club Program during 2015-16.

Mr WHETSTONE: How many applications did you have for those?

The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL: I do not have that figure. We know that not every applicant is successful, but I advise people, if they were not successful, to keep working with the Office for Rec and Sport, which does a tremendous job. I know as a local member, for the 10 years that I have been here, that the best thing a sporting club can do at the very start of the process is to get on the phone or sit down with representatives from the Office for Rec and Sport. They will go through everything, and they are happy to do it.

The worst thing is to be knocked out because you have not filled the form in right. It is a daunting job for many volunteers who have not had to go through the process before, but it is an easy job for people who are used to it. That is what the fantastic team that Kylie oversees is brilliant at doing—working with people in the local community.

Mr WHETSTONE: It as an oversight by me, but can we go back to page 86, activity indicators. What was the reasoning behind SASI having more program scholarship holders in 2015-16 than was projected? Why are these extra programs not continuing into 2016-17? In 2013-14, 300 athlete scholarships were provided, so why has this reduced so substantially? Is it due to funding?

The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL: In the lead-up to an Olympics, there are much tougher criteria. The further you are out from the Olympics, the wider you go with athletes who may have the potential to represent Australia at the Olympics; the closer you get, the more you realise there are going to be fewer of those athletes. After each Olympics, that process starts again, and it is just the natural ebb and flow that comes with athlete selection.

Mr WHETSTONE: Just flying the flag for Wes. Is the $10 million announced for women's sporting facilities over four years included in the Active Club grant program? As I see it, it is not included in the Rec and Sport program.

The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL: It is additional money. It is $10 million additional money and, as we said, there are no criteria around this in terms of clubs matching the funding or councils having to contribute. This is money that is our government's priority to promote and support women's sport. It is something we see as a really important for our government, and we will put 100 per cent of that money into the facilities.

Mr WHETSTONE: Did the $250,000 that was awarded to the Adelaide footy club for their women's sporting fund come out of the $10 million?

The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL: No.

Mr WHETSTONE: That is a separate—

The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL: It has not come out of Rec and Sport. That has come out of the Premier's office.

Mr WHETSTONE: When will the position for executive director for Office for Rec and Sport be permanently filled?

The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL: We will work through that with Michael Deegan, who is the head of DPTI. Can I put on the record our thanks and appreciation for the outstanding work that Kylie Taylor is doing in the role. She has really stepped up and is doing an incredible amount of work. This additional $40 million is the biggest spend ever in the history of rec and sport in South Australia. There has been a lot of work to get through to make sure that we had the cases put forward, and Kylie and everyone here has done a tremendous job.

Mr WHETSTONE: Are the payout costs for the previous CEO, Paul Anderson, included in the program summary and what are the costs?

The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL: That is not included in any of our budget lines. That is in the DPTI budget.

Mr WHETSTONE: So, you are not able to tell me what the payout was?

The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL: No, it is probably a question for Stephen Mullighan as the minister responsible for DPTI.

Mr WHETSTONE: Really? We will move into racing, Budget Paper 4, Volume 3, page 83, program summary. Of the total $48.38 million rec, sport and racing budget, what is the total allocated to the racing industry and can you provide a breakdown of that funding?

The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL: Most of the money that goes to the racing industry from the coffers of South Australia actually comes out of Treasury. It is a deal that was done by the previous government, back in 2000, when the racing industry was corporatised. Government does not have any control or responsibility for any of the racing codes, but we do have regulatory involvement around gambling and things like that.

The money they do receive changes each year because it is determined by the turnover tax on betting revenue, but it is roughly about $7 million. This figure is money that used to go into the government coffers, and we would take that as normal taxation. That is not a bad memory: $7.716 million, but that changes each year. That is money that used to come into the Treasurer and would be spent on anything in general revenue.

We have quarantined that, and we have given that to the racing codes. It is spread between Thoroughbred Racing SA, Greyhound Racing SA and Harness Racing SA on a pro rata basis. Depending on what the betting turnover revenue is on the trots, they will get that percentage, the dogs will get a percentage and then the races will get their percentage as well. That is how we fund the racing industry in South Australia.

Mr WHETSTONE: Minister, as a final question, do you believe that the new 15 per cent wagering tax will have an impact on revenue raised by wagering within the racing industry?

The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL: That is going to be something for the racing industry to determine, but we have been having ongoing discussions with the racing industry, and I know that Treasury has been having those discussions as well.

Mr WHETSTONE: How many FTEs were dedicated to the racing industry in 2015-16, and will that remain into the future?

The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL: There is 0.5 to 1. It is Sue, and we cannot cut her in half. Sue does a fantastic job—

Mr WHETSTONE: Do you cut Sue in half?

The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL: Well, she does a lot of other things.

The CHAIR: No, she does double the work—she is a woman.

The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL: She does a lot of other work as well. Sue will continue in that role and continue to have a good relationship with all three codes of racing. I get out there a lot, although I do not go to Oakbank. Some bloke said that I never go to the races. I do go to the races, I just do not go to Oakbank.

The CHAIR: Another quick question? We are rewarding good behaviour. We have not had much of that today.

The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL: Yes, maybe you can go back to the member for Unley and coach him, tell him how to be polite.

Mr WHETSTONE: That's harsh.

The CHAIR: No, what is your question?

Mr WHETSTONE: I would like to come back to sports programs. I refer again to page 84, financial commentary, regarding the construction of the BMX facility at O'Halloran Hill, and this one is for the member for Fisher. Can you guarantee that the track will be up to an international standard?

The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL: Yes, it will be of international standard and that is what we need for our athletes. For too long, athletes from South Australia have had to go up to Queensland and their families have had to go with them. Normally, these kids are around 12, 14, 15 years of age, and it is been the only world-class facility in Australia. We are going to reverse that, and when it is built not only will it be great for South Australian athletes but we are told by the people in BMX that we will probably get a lot of people from Perth and Victoria who will relocate here as well so that their kids can be given a great opportunity.

When we say it is world class and world standard, the actual functionality of the track will be for all the riding that these guys need to do to be able to go and perform at world championships and world cup events. We will have to do extra work to stage the world titles, for example. We would have to bring in grandstands and stuff like that, but that is the nature of the thing. You would not have a whole heap of grandstands sitting their idle for three or four years.

Mr WHETSTONE: The track will be UCI approved?

The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL: Yes, it will be. I have to say that Brian Cookson, President of the UCI, is very pleased with the efforts the South Australian government has put in. We have obviously got the biggest bike race outside of Europe with the Tour Down Under. We have the women's Tour Down Under now. I know that the member for Ashford has been at me for years to get a women's Tour Down Under, and we want to take that to the same level as the men's race.

Of course, we have the velodrome that was built in preparation for the 1998 Commonwealth Games that went to Kuala Lumpur, and we have got some outstanding mountain-biking facilities around the state. Undoubtedly, once this BMX track facility is open, we will be the undisputed capital of cycling in the Southern Hemisphere.

The CHAIR: That seems like a very positive note to let you all know that the time has elapsed for questioning.

The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL: I thank the member for Chaffey for the way in which he has conducted himself. He has been very polite, and he has been a joy to deal with. I would like that to be on the record. A happy Olympics to all our South Australian athletes.

The CHAIR: There being no further questions, I declare the examination of the proposed payments adjourned and referred to committee B. I thank the minister and his advisers for a splendid job, and we appreciate the attendance of those in the gallery today. I thank the members for their cooperation and the very smooth session this afternoon.


At 15:05 the committee adjourned until Wednesday 3 August 2016 at 09:00.