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  <name>Legislative Council</name>
  <date date="2025-11-27T11:00:00+10:30" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Fifth Parliament, First Session (55-1)</sessionName>
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  <parliamentName>Parliament of South Australia</parliamentName>
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    <name>Question Time</name>
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      <name>Public Transport</name>
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        <heading>Public Transport</heading>
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      <talker role="member" id="7056" referenceid="8dfae82e584e4ef8b03b5e315458492b" uid="fde3212df7ef4cbfb134ae6d8b3ee541" kind="question">
        <name>The Hon. B.R. HOOD</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
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          <question date="2025-11-27T00:30:00+10:30">
            <name>Public Transport</name>
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        <startTime time="2025-11-27T15:14:38+10:30" />
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          <by role="member" id="7056" referenceid="8dfae82e584e4ef8b03b5e315458492b" uid="fde3212df7ef4cbfb134ae6d8b3ee541">The Hon. B.R. HOOD (15:14):</by>  Supplementary: does the minister acknowledge that South Australia's public transport network is running later than ever, with punctuality complaints up 87 per cent in the last financial year since it has come back into public hands?</text>
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        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
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          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  I never heard any mention of punctuality complaints, but if you are on your feet and you want to speak, go your hardest.</text>
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          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
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        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
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          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Order!</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="5413" referenceid="07ef1306959a44c38acfb7dce9a031db" uid="35855dbeb07044c880afb37af8c84d39" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. E.S. BOURKE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
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            <name>Minister for Infrastructure and Transport</name>
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            <name>Minister for Autism</name>
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            <name>Minister for Emergency Services and Correctional Services</name>
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          <by role="member" id="5413" referenceid="07ef1306959a44c38acfb7dce9a031db" uid="35855dbeb07044c880afb37af8c84d39">The Hon. E.S. BOURKE (Minister for Infrastructure and Transport, Minister for Autism) (15:15):</by>  This could have been a Dorothy, to be honest. I had such pleasure in going to Dry Creek on Monday or Tuesday, and I learned how to drive a train. I was talking to the people—</text>
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          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
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      <talker role="member" id="5413" referenceid="07ef1306959a44c38acfb7dce9a031db" uid="0e164575aae74296baa652b92d4f25d4" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. E.S. BOURKE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
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            <name>Minister for Infrastructure and Transport</name>
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            <name>Minister for Autism</name>
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            <name>Minister for Emergency Services and Correctional Services</name>
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          <by role="member" id="5413" referenceid="07ef1306959a44c38acfb7dce9a031db" uid="0e164575aae74296baa652b92d4f25d4">The Hon. E.S. BOURKE:</by>  I could drive, the Hon. Robert Simms. It was an incredible experience to see the wealth of knowledge that is there.</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="6827" referenceid="b04d90ce5a204cc6b8913d2697f86b49" uid="e56b061be47541e5abc6046f8a72a57c" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. H.M. Girolamo</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
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          <by role="member" id="6827" referenceid="b04d90ce5a204cc6b8913d2697f86b49" uid="e56b061be47541e5abc6046f8a72a57c">The Hon. H.M. Girolamo:</by>  Do you have a licence to drive a train?</text>
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        <name>The Hon. E.S. BOURKE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
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            <name>Minister for Infrastructure and Transport</name>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Autism</name>
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            <name>Minister for Emergency Services and Correctional Services</name>
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          <by role="member" id="5413" referenceid="07ef1306959a44c38acfb7dce9a031db" uid="c4ca23a0f8c247e094187b20a1e95158">The Hon. E.S. BOURKE:</by>  It was a computer—we don't have to panic too much. What was really interesting was the feedback from employees who had worked and transitioned back, from being privatised to being in public hands. What they made really clear to me was the significance of how proud they feel to come to work now. It's not about the KPI—</text>
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          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="6827" referenceid="b04d90ce5a204cc6b8913d2697f86b49">The Hon. H.M. Girolamo interjecting:</event>
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        <name>The Hon. E.S. BOURKE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
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            <name>Minister for Infrastructure and Transport</name>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Autism</name>
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            <name>Minister for Emergency Services and Correctional Services</name>
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          <by role="member" id="5413" referenceid="07ef1306959a44c38acfb7dce9a031db" uid="3782f5dc145247cc932fb5fdcf697d12">The Hon. E.S. BOURKE:</by>  Just wait. It was not about the KPI of making sure that they arrived somewhere spot on time. What they are so proud of is that they make sure everyone gets picked up, because that wasn't happening before. People were not getting picked up. They were getting left so that they could meet the KPIs that you put on them. You didn't provide the services that people actually need to make sure that they can get on a train and go where they need to go. When the employees are saying that the service is better, when the people riding it are saying it's better, I think we have made the right choice by bringing it back into public hands.</text>
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