<!--The Official Report of Parliamentary Debates (Hansard) of the Legislative Council and the House of Assembly of the Parliament of South Australia are covered by parliamentary privilege. Republication by others is not afforded the same protection and may result in exposure to legal liability if the material is defamatory. You may copy and make use of excerpts of proceedings where (1) you attribute the Parliament as the source, (2) you assume the risk of liability if the manner of your use is defamatory, (3) you do not use the material for the purpose of advertising, satire or ridicule, or to misrepresent members of Parliament, and (4) your use of the extracts is fair, accurate and not misleading. Copyright in the Official Report of Parliamentary Debates is held by the Attorney-General of South Australia.-->
<hansard id="" tocId="" xml:lang="EN-AU" schemaVersion="4.0" xsi:noNamespaceSchemaLocation="hansard_1_0.xsd" xmlns:xlink="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2007/XMLSchema-instance" xmlns:mml="http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML">
  <name>Legislative Council</name>
  <date date="2024-09-26T14:15:00+09:30" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Fifth Parliament, First Session (55-1)</sessionName>
  <parliamentNum>55</parliamentNum>
  <sessionNum>1</sessionNum>
  <parliamentName>Parliament of South Australia</parliamentName>
  <house>Legislative Council</house>
  <venue></venue>
  <reviewStage>published</reviewStage>
  <startPage num="6671" />
  <endPage num="6731" />
  <dateModified time="2024-09-27T16:26:40+09:30" />
  <proceeding continued="true">
    <name>Bills</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Casino (Penalties) Amendment Bill</name>
      <bills>
        <bill id="s5348" referenceid="847aed8e01f2443881f5dd98c947d6b9">
          <name>Casino (Penalties) Amendment Bill</name>
        </bill>
      </bills>
      <text id="20240926e0974922f70547d690000284" referenceid="847aed8e01f2443881f5dd98c947d6b9">
        <heading>Casino (Penalties) Amendment Bill</heading>
      </text>
      <subproceeding>
        <name>Second Reading</name>
        <text id="20240926e0974922f70547d690000285">
          <heading>Second Reading</heading>
        </text>
        <text id="20240926e0974922f70547d690000286">Adjourned debate on second reading.</text>
        <text id="20240926e0974922f70547d690000287">(Continued from 12 September 2024.)</text>
        <talker role="member" id="5419" referenceid="10d60568293c40059d4659591683f18e" kind="speech">
          <name>The Hon. F. PANGALLO</name>
          <house>Legislative Council</house>
          <startTime time="2024-09-26T15:34:46+09:30" />
          <text id="20240926e0974922f70547d690000288">
            <timeStamp time="2024-09-26T15:34:46+09:30" />
            <by role="member" id="5419" referenceid="10d60568293c40059d4659591683f18e">The Hon. F. PANGALLO (15:34):</by>  I will keep it short. I just rise to say that I will be supporting the bill. I look forward to the debate, and I will have some questions in relation to that.</text>
        </talker>
        <talker role="member" id="4697" referenceid="c1607c57d2294390bdc2b07c15f35010" kind="speech">
          <name>The Hon. K.J. MAHER</name>
          <house>Legislative Council</house>
          <portfolios>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for Aboriginal Affairs</name>
            </portfolio>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Attorney-General</name>
            </portfolio>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for Industrial Relations and Public Sector</name>
            </portfolio>
          </portfolios>
          <startTime time="2024-09-26T15:35:05+09:30" />
          <text id="20240926e0974922f70547d690000289">
            <timeStamp time="2024-09-26T15:35:05+09:30" />
            <by role="member" id="4697" referenceid="c1607c57d2294390bdc2b07c15f35010">The Hon. K.J. MAHER (Minister for Aboriginal Affairs, Attorney-General, Minister for Industrial Relations and Public Sector) (15:35):</by>  I am very happy to conclude the debate. I am a bit shocked though. I saw the Hon. Mr Pangallo's name down to speak and 30 seconds later I find myself up on my feet. I look forward to this new chapter in Mr Pangallo's parliamentary experience. This is fantastic. I very much thank Mr Pangallo for his contribution, and I thank all other members who have made contributions on this important bill, and look forward to the committee stage.</text>
          <text id="20240926e0974922f70547d690000290">Bill read a second time.</text>
        </talker>
      </subproceeding>
      <subproceeding>
        <name>Committee Stage</name>
        <text id="20240926e0974922f70547d690000291">
          <heading>Committee Stage</heading>
        </text>
        <text id="20240926e0974922f70547d690000292">In committee.</text>
        <text id="20240926e0974922f70547d690000293">Clause 1.</text>
        <talker role="member" id="5419" referenceid="10d60568293c40059d4659591683f18e">
          <name>The Hon. F. PANGALLO</name>
          <house>Legislative Council</house>
          <text id="20240926e0974922f70547d690000294">
            <by role="member" id="5419" referenceid="10d60568293c40059d4659591683f18e">The Hon. F. PANGALLO:</by>  A question to the Attorney-General: can I ask what sparked the review of these penalties? Was it the civil action against the Casino by AUSTRAC?</text>
        </talker>
        <talker role="member" id="4697" referenceid="c1607c57d2294390bdc2b07c15f35010">
          <name>The Hon. K.J. MAHER</name>
          <house>Legislative Council</house>
          <portfolios>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for Aboriginal Affairs</name>
            </portfolio>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Attorney-General</name>
            </portfolio>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for Industrial Relations and Public Sector</name>
            </portfolio>
          </portfolios>
          <text id="20240926e0974922f70547d690000295">
            <by role="member" id="4697" referenceid="c1607c57d2294390bdc2b07c15f35010">The Hon. K.J. MAHER:</by>  I am advised that the genesis for reviewing, and the bill before us, was the fact that the penalties had not been reviewed for some 30 years, and a comparison was done with other jurisdictions to make them more appropriate.</text>
        </talker>
        <talker role="member" id="5419" referenceid="10d60568293c40059d4659591683f18e">
          <name>The Hon. F. PANGALLO</name>
          <house>Legislative Council</house>
          <text id="20240926e0974922f70547d690000296">
            <by role="member" id="5419" referenceid="10d60568293c40059d4659591683f18e">The Hon. F. PANGALLO:</by>  But was there an epiphany by the minister after the civil action that was going on between the Casino and AUSTRAC, because why would it be 30 years before suddenly someone realised these penalties were inadequate?</text>
        </talker>
        <talker role="member" id="4697" referenceid="c1607c57d2294390bdc2b07c15f35010">
          <name>The Hon. K.J. MAHER</name>
          <house>Legislative Council</house>
          <portfolios>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for Aboriginal Affairs</name>
            </portfolio>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Attorney-General</name>
            </portfolio>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for Industrial Relations and Public Sector</name>
            </portfolio>
          </portfolios>
          <page num="6690" />
          <text id="20240926e0974922f70547d690000297">
            <by role="member" id="4697" referenceid="c1607c57d2294390bdc2b07c15f35010">The Hon. K.J. MAHER:</by>  My advice is there has been a significantly increased focus on casinos and their operations right across Australia, which was the genesis for having a look at, and the bill before us.</text>
        </talker>
        <talker role="member" id="5419" referenceid="10d60568293c40059d4659591683f18e">
          <name>The Hon. F. PANGALLO</name>
          <house>Legislative Council</house>
          <text id="20240926e0974922f70547d690000298">
            <by role="member" id="5419" referenceid="10d60568293c40059d4659591683f18e">The Hon. F. PANGALLO:</by>  How did the minister arrive at these penalties? What was the criteria for those?</text>
        </talker>
        <talker role="member" id="4697" referenceid="c1607c57d2294390bdc2b07c15f35010">
          <name>The Hon. K.J. MAHER</name>
          <house>Legislative Council</house>
          <portfolios>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for Aboriginal Affairs</name>
            </portfolio>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Attorney-General</name>
            </portfolio>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for Industrial Relations and Public Sector</name>
            </portfolio>
          </portfolios>
          <text id="20240926e0974922f70547d690000299">
            <by role="member" id="4697" referenceid="c1607c57d2294390bdc2b07c15f35010">The Hon. K.J. MAHER:</by>  I am advised it was a combination of taking into account penalties as they apply in other jurisdictions across Australia combined with the nature of our jurisdiction, that is, our size and the number of licences.</text>
        </talker>
        <talker role="member" id="5419" referenceid="10d60568293c40059d4659591683f18e">
          <name>The Hon. F. PANGALLO</name>
          <house>Legislative Council</house>
          <text id="20240926e0974922f70547d690000300">
            <by role="member" id="5419" referenceid="10d60568293c40059d4659591683f18e">The Hon. F. PANGALLO:</by>  Has the Casino made good on its commitment that it would pay a penalty following the conclusion of the civil action with AUSTRAC?</text>
        </talker>
        <talker role="member" id="4697" referenceid="c1607c57d2294390bdc2b07c15f35010">
          <name>The Hon. K.J. MAHER</name>
          <house>Legislative Council</house>
          <portfolios>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for Aboriginal Affairs</name>
            </portfolio>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Attorney-General</name>
            </portfolio>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for Industrial Relations and Public Sector</name>
            </portfolio>
          </portfolios>
          <text id="20240926e0974922f70547d690000301">
            <by role="member" id="4697" referenceid="c1607c57d2294390bdc2b07c15f35010">The Hon. K.J. MAHER:</by>  I am advised that that particular issue is a matter for the Federal Court of Australia.</text>
        </talker>
        <talker role="member" id="5419" referenceid="10d60568293c40059d4659591683f18e">
          <name>The Hon. F. PANGALLO</name>
          <house>Legislative Council</house>
          <text id="20240926e0974922f70547d690000302">
            <by role="member" id="5419" referenceid="10d60568293c40059d4659591683f18e">The Hon. F. PANGALLO:</by>  In the event that the Casino does pay that penalty through to the Federal Court, would the Casino still be liable to be fined under this legislation and under the new penalties, or would payment of that penalty exonerate them or make them not liable to pay a further penalty?</text>
        </talker>
        <talker role="member" id="4697" referenceid="c1607c57d2294390bdc2b07c15f35010">
          <name>The Hon. K.J. MAHER</name>
          <house>Legislative Council</house>
          <portfolios>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for Aboriginal Affairs</name>
            </portfolio>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Attorney-General</name>
            </portfolio>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for Industrial Relations and Public Sector</name>
            </portfolio>
          </portfolios>
          <text id="20240926e0974922f70547d690000303">
            <by role="member" id="4697" referenceid="c1607c57d2294390bdc2b07c15f35010">The Hon. K.J. MAHER:</by>  I thank the honourable member for his question. That would be possible. It does not preclude the state having a look at penalties. I am advised that the state would need to take into account any other penalties that had been applied, but I am further advised that a monetary penalty is not the only sanction the state has available.</text>
        </talker>
        <talker role="member" id="5419" referenceid="10d60568293c40059d4659591683f18e">
          <name>The Hon. F. PANGALLO</name>
          <house>Legislative Council</house>
          <text id="20240926e0974922f70547d690000304">
            <by role="member" id="5419" referenceid="10d60568293c40059d4659591683f18e">The Hon. F. PANGALLO:</by>  Is the state or the minister actually considering applying another penalty to the Casino right now?</text>
        </talker>
        <talker role="member" id="4697" referenceid="c1607c57d2294390bdc2b07c15f35010">
          <name>The Hon. K.J. MAHER</name>
          <house>Legislative Council</house>
          <portfolios>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for Aboriginal Affairs</name>
            </portfolio>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Attorney-General</name>
            </portfolio>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for Industrial Relations and Public Sector</name>
            </portfolio>
          </portfolios>
          <text id="20240926e0974922f70547d690000305">
            <by role="member" id="4697" referenceid="c1607c57d2294390bdc2b07c15f35010">The Hon. K.J. MAHER:</by>  I am advised that is not a matter for the minister: that is a matter for the commissioner. I am further advised it would have to take into account the Martin investigation.</text>
        </talker>
        <talker role="member" id="5418" referenceid="e7b583be01404e74b438589370882e1d">
          <name>The Hon. C. BONAROS</name>
          <house>Legislative Council</house>
          <text id="20240926e0974922f70547d690000306">
            <by role="member" id="5418" referenceid="e7b583be01404e74b438589370882e1d">The Hon. C. BONAROS:</by>  Is it more the case that, in relation to these updates that we have discussed and in light of what has happened in other casinos, there were requests for the Casino to undertake certain actions, and a very lax approach, if you like, by the Casino in responding to those requests—</text>
        </talker>
        <talker role="member" id="4697" referenceid="c1607c57d2294390bdc2b07c15f35010">
          <name>The Hon. K.J. MAHER</name>
          <house>Legislative Council</house>
          <portfolios>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for Aboriginal Affairs</name>
            </portfolio>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Attorney-General</name>
            </portfolio>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for Industrial Relations and Public Sector</name>
            </portfolio>
          </portfolios>
          <text id="20240926e0974922f70547d690000307">
            <by role="member" id="4697" referenceid="c1607c57d2294390bdc2b07c15f35010">The Hon. K.J. MAHER:</by>  Requests from the state regulator?</text>
        </talker>
        <talker role="member" id="5418" referenceid="e7b583be01404e74b438589370882e1d">
          <name>The Hon. C. BONAROS</name>
          <house>Legislative Council</house>
          <text id="20240926e0974922f70547d690000308">
            <by role="member" id="5418" referenceid="e7b583be01404e74b438589370882e1d">The Hon. C. BONAROS:</by>  Yes.</text>
        </talker>
        <talker role="member" id="4697" referenceid="c1607c57d2294390bdc2b07c15f35010">
          <name>The Hon. K.J. MAHER</name>
          <house>Legislative Council</house>
          <portfolios>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for Aboriginal Affairs</name>
            </portfolio>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Attorney-General</name>
            </portfolio>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for Industrial Relations and Public Sector</name>
            </portfolio>
          </portfolios>
          <text id="20240926e0974922f70547d690000309">
            <by role="member" id="4697" referenceid="c1607c57d2294390bdc2b07c15f35010">The Hon. K.J. MAHER:</by>  I am advised that the commissioner appointed an independent monitor to give advice and to monitor and further give advice on compliance.</text>
        </talker>
        <talker role="member" id="5418" referenceid="e7b583be01404e74b438589370882e1d">
          <name>The Hon. C. BONAROS</name>
          <house>Legislative Council</house>
          <text id="20240926e0974922f70547d690000310">
            <by role="member" id="5418" referenceid="e7b583be01404e74b438589370882e1d">The Hon. C. BONAROS:</by>  Is it also the case that that further monitoring is indeed still underway and that there are a number of responses required by the Casino in relation to that compliance?</text>
        </talker>
        <talker role="member" id="4697" referenceid="c1607c57d2294390bdc2b07c15f35010">
          <name>The Hon. K.J. MAHER</name>
          <house>Legislative Council</house>
          <portfolios>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for Aboriginal Affairs</name>
            </portfolio>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Attorney-General</name>
            </portfolio>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for Industrial Relations and Public Sector</name>
            </portfolio>
          </portfolios>
          <text id="20240926e0974922f70547d690000311">
            <by role="member" id="4697" referenceid="c1607c57d2294390bdc2b07c15f35010">The Hon. K.J. MAHER:</by>  I am advised that is the case, yes.</text>
        </talker>
        <talker role="member" id="5419" referenceid="10d60568293c40059d4659591683f18e">
          <name>The Hon. F. PANGALLO</name>
          <house>Legislative Council</house>
          <text id="20240926e0974922f70547d690000312">
            <by role="member" id="5419" referenceid="10d60568293c40059d4659591683f18e">The Hon. F. PANGALLO:</by>  A question to the Attorney-General in relation to CBS: I note that there have been some significant movements at CBS. Who is the commissioner? I do not think one has been appointed. If it is an acting commissioner, do they have the authority or have to wait until one is appointed?</text>
        </talker>
        <talker role="member" id="4697" referenceid="c1607c57d2294390bdc2b07c15f35010">
          <name>The Hon. K.J. MAHER</name>
          <house>Legislative Council</house>
          <portfolios>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for Aboriginal Affairs</name>
            </portfolio>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Attorney-General</name>
            </portfolio>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for Industrial Relations and Public Sector</name>
            </portfolio>
          </portfolios>
          <text id="20240926e0974922f70547d690000313">
            <by role="member" id="4697" referenceid="c1607c57d2294390bdc2b07c15f35010">The Hon. K.J. MAHER:</by>  I am advised that the acting commissioner is Ms Stephanie Halliday, who has taken on various acting commissioner roles, notably for a while the Acting Commissioner for Equal Opportunity in the past. I am advised that they have all the powers that a commissioner has.</text>
        </talker>
        <talker role="member" id="5418" referenceid="e7b583be01404e74b438589370882e1d">
          <name>The Hon. C. BONAROS</name>
          <house>Legislative Council</house>
          <text id="20240926e0974922f70547d690000314">
            <by role="member" id="5418" referenceid="e7b583be01404e74b438589370882e1d">The Hon. C. BONAROS:</by>  Is the Attorney able to provide two updates to the chamber: one in relation to the timeframe for that review that is continuing, and secondly in relation to the payroll tax liability of the Casino that is the subject of the contention between the government and the Casino?</text>
        </talker>
        <talker role="member" id="4697" referenceid="c1607c57d2294390bdc2b07c15f35010">
          <name>The Hon. K.J. MAHER</name>
          <house>Legislative Council</house>
          <portfolios>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for Aboriginal Affairs</name>
            </portfolio>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Attorney-General</name>
            </portfolio>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for Industrial Relations and Public Sector</name>
            </portfolio>
          </portfolios>
          <page num="6691" />
          <text id="20240926e0974922f70547d690000315">
            <by role="member" id="4697" referenceid="c1607c57d2294390bdc2b07c15f35010">The Hon. K.J. MAHER:</by>  I am much obliged to the honourable member for her questions. I am advised that in terms of timeframes—and I was not sure which area the honourable member meant—but in terms of the Martin report I think it had been previously stated that it is hoped by the end of the year. In terms of the ongoing monitoring, to which I answered before, there is not a set timeframe and it does not have an end date. In relation to the payroll tax liability, I am advised that is a matter that is with the Treasurer and is being discussed or negotiated.</text>
        </talker>
        <talker role="member" id="5418" referenceid="e7b583be01404e74b438589370882e1d">
          <name>The Hon. C. BONAROS</name>
          <house>Legislative Council</house>
          <text id="20240926e0974922f70547d690000316">
            <by role="member" id="5418" referenceid="e7b583be01404e74b438589370882e1d">The Hon. C. BONAROS:</by>  Just to confirm for the record, when that Martin review does conclude then the question of suitability of being able to hold that licence in the state will be a matter of consideration.</text>
        </talker>
        <talker role="member" id="4697" referenceid="c1607c57d2294390bdc2b07c15f35010">
          <name>The Hon. K.J. MAHER</name>
          <house>Legislative Council</house>
          <portfolios>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for Aboriginal Affairs</name>
            </portfolio>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Attorney-General</name>
            </portfolio>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for Industrial Relations and Public Sector</name>
            </portfolio>
          </portfolios>
          <text id="20240926e0974922f70547d690000317">
            <by role="member" id="4697" referenceid="c1607c57d2294390bdc2b07c15f35010">The Hon. K.J. MAHER:</by>  I am advised that is correct.</text>
          <text id="20240926e0974922f70547d690000318">Clause passed.</text>
          <text id="20240926e0974922f70547d690000319">Remaining clauses (2 to 20), schedule and title passed.</text>
          <text id="20240926e0974922f70547d690000320">Bill reported without amendment.</text>
        </talker>
      </subproceeding>
      <subproceeding>
        <name>Third Reading</name>
        <text id="20240926e0974922f70547d690000321">
          <heading>Third Reading</heading>
        </text>
        <talker role="member" id="4697" referenceid="c1607c57d2294390bdc2b07c15f35010" kind="speech">
          <name>The Hon. K.J. MAHER</name>
          <house>Legislative Council</house>
          <portfolios>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for Aboriginal Affairs</name>
            </portfolio>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Attorney-General</name>
            </portfolio>
            <portfolio id="">
              <name>Minister for Industrial Relations and Public Sector</name>
            </portfolio>
          </portfolios>
          <startTime time="2024-09-26T15:46:58+09:30" />
          <text id="20240926e0974922f70547d690000322">
            <timeStamp time="2024-09-26T15:46:58+09:30" />
            <by role="member" id="4697" referenceid="c1607c57d2294390bdc2b07c15f35010">The Hon. K.J. MAHER (Minister for Aboriginal Affairs, Attorney-General, Minister for Industrial Relations and Public Sector) (15:46):</by>  I move:</text>
          <text id="20240926e0974922f70547d690000323">
            <inserted>That this bill be now read a third time.</inserted>
          </text>
          <text id="20240926e0974922f70547d690000324">Bill read a third time and passed.</text>
        </talker>
      </subproceeding>
    </subject>
  </proceeding>
</hansard>