<!--The Official Report of Parliamentary Debates (Hansard) of the Legislative Council and the House of Assembly of the Parliament of South Australia are covered by parliamentary privilege. Republication by others is not afforded the same protection and may result in exposure to legal liability if the material is defamatory. You may copy and make use of excerpts of proceedings where (1) you attribute the Parliament as the source, (2) you assume the risk of liability if the manner of your use is defamatory, (3) you do not use the material for the purpose of advertising, satire or ridicule, or to misrepresent members of Parliament, and (4) your use of the extracts is fair, accurate and not misleading. Copyright in the Official Report of Parliamentary Debates is held by the Attorney-General of South Australia.-->
<hansard id="" tocId="" xml:lang="EN-AU" schemaVersion="4.0" xsi:noNamespaceSchemaLocation="hansard_1_0.xsd" xmlns:xlink="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2007/XMLSchema-instance" xmlns:mml="http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML">
  <name>Legislative Council</name>
  <date date="2023-10-19T14:15:00+10:30" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Fifth Parliament, First Session (55-1)</sessionName>
  <parliamentNum>55</parliamentNum>
  <sessionNum>1</sessionNum>
  <parliamentName>Parliament of South Australia</parliamentName>
  <house>Legislative Council</house>
  <venue></venue>
  <reviewStage>published</reviewStage>
  <startPage num="3955" />
  <endPage num="4020" />
  <dateModified time="2023-10-24T11:07:26+10:30" />
  <proceeding continued="true">
    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Establishment of Adelaide University</name>
      <text id="20231019fb52a1dfd7e94be580000123">
        <heading>Establishment of Adelaide University</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="5419" referenceid="10d60568293c40059d4659591683f18e" kind="question">
        <name>The Hon. F. PANGALLO</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <questions>
          <question date="2023-10-19T03:45:00+10:30">
            <name>Establishment of Adelaide University</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2023-10-19T14:42:54+10:30" />
        <text id="20231019fb52a1dfd7e94be580000124">
          <timeStamp time="2023-10-19T14:42:54+10:30" />
          <by role="member" id="5419" referenceid="10d60568293c40059d4659591683f18e">The Hon. F. PANGALLO (14:42):</by>  I seek leave to make a brief explanation before asking the Attorney-General and the Premier in the other place a question about the merger of universities.</text>
        <text id="20231019fb52a1dfd7e94be580000125">Leave granted.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5419" referenceid="10d60568293c40059d4659591683f18e" kind="question" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. F. PANGALLO</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20231019fb52a1dfd7e94be580000126">
          <by role="member" id="5419" referenceid="10d60568293c40059d4659591683f18e">The Hon. F. PANGALLO:</by>  As I have outlined in the motion introduced today, transparency of process is integral. On Tuesday morning on ABC Radio 891 breakfast, the education minister, the Hon. Blair Boyer, Greens MLC the Hon. Robert Simms and the opposition shadow education minister, John Gardner, were asked about their views on the university merger. The report by the joint parliamentary committee into the merger and its findings and recommendations had not yet been tabled in both houses of parliament. Allow me to quote Minister Boyer:</text>
        <text id="20231019fb52a1dfd7e94be580000127">
          <inserted>I know the committee itself I think found—</inserted>
        </text>
        <text continued="true" id="20231019fb52a1dfd7e94be580000128">and that's my emphasis—</text>
        <text continued="true" id="20231019fb52a1dfd7e94be580000129">
          <inserted>that it would be a real plus and lots of upside in terms of the economy. I am not the minister responsible but as education minister we have a lot to do with the unis as well and I've had the opportunity to speak not just to Vice-Chancellors but to other university staff and I think there is a level of kind of excitement out there about what South Australia could achieve if we do get this merger through. So fingers crossed.</inserted>
        </text>
        <page num="3961" />
        <text continued="true" id="20231019fb52a1dfd7e94be580000130">Fingers crossed that the minister isn't found to be in breach of the Parliamentary Committees Act in pre-empting the findings and recommendations by a cavalier slip of the tongue.</text>
        <text id="20231019fb52a1dfd7e94be580000131">The other two MPs who are on that committee made it clear in the interview that they would not break the parliamentary embargo and committee protocols. Then, voila! With the ink barely dried on the report and the merger legislation still to see the light of day, the Premier yesterday morning had two of the committee members, vocal South Australian Voice opponent, the Hon. Sarah Game, and the Hon. Connie Bonaros, by his side announcing a deal had been stitched up. My question to the Attorney-General and the Premier:</text>
        <text id="20231019fb52a1dfd7e94be580000132">1.&amp;#x9;Will they now disclose to this chamber the names and dates of meetings, phone records and email exchanges the Premier, the Deputy Premier and the education minister have had with individuals and organisations, including members of parliament and external persons seeking to influence government policy or decisions, about the merger between 24 March 2022 and 19 October 2023?</text>
        <text id="20231019fb52a1dfd7e94be580000133">2.&amp;#x9;Can the Minister for Education explain how and why he came to the belief that the committee was going to support the merger and whether he had discussions about the merger report with Labor members on the committee, the Premier, the Deputy Premier, other committee members and the Presiding Member before the report was tabled?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4697" referenceid="c1607c57d2294390bdc2b07c15f35010" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. K.J. MAHER</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Aboriginal Affairs</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Attorney-General</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Industrial Relations and Public Sector</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <startTime time="2023-10-19T14:46:01+10:30" />
        <text id="20231019fb52a1dfd7e94be580000134">
          <timeStamp time="2023-10-19T14:46:01+10:30" />
          <by role="member" id="4697" referenceid="c1607c57d2294390bdc2b07c15f35010">The Hon. K.J. MAHER (Minister for Aboriginal Affairs, Attorney-General, Minister for Industrial Relations and Public Sector) (14:46):</by>  I thank the honourable member for his question. On his questions in relation to what I am responsible to the chamber for, I can't recall having had extensive consultation with my colleagues within the parliament about the issue of university mergers. Certainly, it's been raised with me by community members in passing, but I don't remember having a distinct meeting on the topic.</text>
        <text id="20231019fb52a1dfd7e94be580000135">In relation to what the Premier or the Minister for Education have discussed with various people, I am sure that they, in doing their jobs properly, have a wide range of discussions with a whole range of people about issues that affect South Australia. I am happy to see if they want to add anything further to what they do, but I am sure that they have a whole range of discussions with a whole range of people.</text>
        <text id="20231019fb52a1dfd7e94be580000136">In relation to the question about the Minister for Education's comments, there was plenty of public information that the universities had put forward about the benefit that this had to the state.</text>
      </talker>
    </subject>
  </proceeding>
</hansard>