Legislative Council Fifty-Fourth Parliament, Second Session (54-2) 54 2 Parliament of South Australia Legislative Council published Question Time Ambulance Ramping Ambulance Ramping The Hon. K.J. MAHER Legislative Council Leader of the Opposition Ambulance Ramping The Hon. K.J. MAHER (Leader of the Opposition) (14:28): Further supplementary in relation to the minister's answer that the sixfold increase, under his watch, can be attributed to COVID: minister, what percentage of the 576 per cent increase do you attributed to COVID? The Hon. S.G. WADE Legislative Council Minister for Health and Wellbeing Ambulance Ramping The Hon. S.G. WADE (Minister for Health and Wellbeing) (14:28): Sorry, I actually misunderstood the question. First of all, I am not saying that the only factor in relation to transfer of care is the pandemic, but there is no doubt that the escalating transfer of key issues right around Australia are not unrelated to the pandemic— The Hon. I.K. Hunter Legislative Council The Hon. I.K. Hunter: It started before COVID, Stephen. You were getting terrible figures before COVID. The President Legislative Council The PRESIDENT: The Hon. Mr Hunter will be quiet! The Hon. S.G. WADE Legislative Council The Hon. S.G. WADE: If that what's the opposition wants to claim— Members interjecting: The President Legislative Council The PRESIDENT: Order! The Hon. S.G. WADE Legislative Council The Hon. S.G. WADE: —if that's what the honourable members opposite want to argue, then basically what they are saying is— Members interjecting: The President Legislative Council The PRESIDENT: Order! The Hon. S.G. WADE Legislative Council The Hon. S.G. WADE: —'Don't have a pandemic response. In relation to your Ambulance Service, just continue business as usual.' Members interjecting: The President Legislative Council The PRESIDENT: The Hon. Mr Wortley is out of order, as is the Hon. Mr Hunter. The Hon. S.G. WADE Legislative Council The Hon. S.G. WADE: That would be ludicrous because we have— The Hon. I.K. Hunter interjecting: The President Legislative Council The PRESIDENT: Order! The Hon. S.G. WADE Legislative Council The Hon. S.G. WADE: —got specific challenges in relation to our Ambulance Service and our care networks. Members interjecting: The President Legislative Council The PRESIDENT: Order! The Hon. S.G. WADE Legislative Council The Hon. S.G. WADE: That's why we have continually developed the Ambulance Service— The Hon. I.K. Hunter Legislative Council The Hon. I.K. Hunter: You're looking, you're looking, you're exploring, but you don't do anything. The President Legislative Council The PRESIDENT: The Hon. Mr Hunter, order! The Hon. R.P. Wortley interjecting: The President Legislative Council The PRESIDENT: The Hon. Mr Wortley is out of order. The Hon. S.G. WADE Legislative Council The Hon. S.G. WADE: In particular, we have developed alternative care pathways where the Ambulance Service, for example, is a key partner in services such as the— The Hon. I.K. Hunter Legislative Council The Hon. I.K. Hunter: And your figures still go up. Ramping is getting worse on your watch. You are doing something terribly wrong, Stephen. The President Legislative Council The PRESIDENT: The Hon. Mr Hunter, order! The Hon. S.G. WADE Legislative Council The Hon. S.G. WADE: —Mental Health Co-responder Program. The Hon. R.P. Wortley Legislative Council The Hon. R.P. Wortley: He's outraged. The President Legislative Council The PRESIDENT: Order! Before I go to the next question, I am going to go to the Hon. Ms Pnevmatikos, who has a matter.