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  <name>Legislative Council</name>
  <date date="2021-10-13" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Fourth Parliament, Second Session (54-2)</sessionName>
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  <dateModified time="2022-08-06T14:30:00+00:00" />
  <proceeding continued="true">
    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Public Housing</name>
      <text id="202110135fb3db9742b7469a80000229">
        <heading>Public Housing</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="5244" kind="question">
        <name>The Hon. J.E. HANSON</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <questions>
          <question date="2021-10-13">
            <name>Public Housing</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2021-10-13T14:46:00" />
        <text id="202110135fb3db9742b7469a80000230">
          <timeStamp time="2021-10-13T14:46:00" />
          <by role="member" id="5244">The Hon. J.E. HANSON (14:46):</by>  I seek leave to make a brief explanation before asking a question of the Minister for Human Services regarding housing.</text>
        <text id="202110135fb3db9742b7469a80000231">Leave granted.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5244" kind="question" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.E. HANSON</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202110135fb3db9742b7469a80000232">
          <by role="member" id="5244">The Hon. J.E. HANSON:</by>  In this place yesterday, the minister said that the Liberals don't engage in a policy of spray and pray when it comes to spending money on housing and homelessness. This answer was in response to a question about why barely 10 per cent of a $20 million Homelessness Prevention Fund had been committed to in two years. The minister wasn't able to say how much had actually been spent or how many people had actually been helped under the fund.</text>
        <text id="202110135fb3db9742b7469a80000233">As we heard from the last question from the opposition, there have been recent revelations about why, in a rushed $50 million maintenance boost last financial year, the waste included some botched work of buying some appliances, which then couldn't be used—I think air conditioners specifically. My questions to the minister are:</text>
        <text id="202110135fb3db9742b7469a80000234">1.&amp;#x9;Exactly how much money was wasted on maintenance work that had been redone or appliances which then couldn't subsequently be installed?</text>
        <text id="202110135fb3db9742b7469a80000235">2.&amp;#x9;What assurances can the minister provide that the amount of money which may have been wasted on the maintenance program in a single year isn't more than the total Homelessness Prevention Fund since it was announced two years ago?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Human Services</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <startTime time="2021-10-13T14:47:22" />
        <text id="202110135fb3db9742b7469a80000236">
          <timeStamp time="2021-10-13T14:47:22" />
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK (Minister for Human Services) (14:47):</by>  I thank the honourable member for his question, although I note he does misrepresent a number of things in his question. Here we have the Labor Party complaining about spending money on maintenance of public housing properties—</text>
        <text id="202110135fb3db9742b7469a80000237">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202110135fb3db9742b7469a80000238">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT</by>:  Order! I would advise the opposition to listen to the minister.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202110135fb3db9742b7469a80000239">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  —complaining about spending money on Housing Trust properties.</text>
        <text id="202110135fb3db9742b7469a80000240">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202110135fb3db9742b7469a80000241">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <page num="4475" />
        <text id="202110135fb3db9742b7469a80000242">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  I might have to email Sascha Meldrum and let her know that I have a DL for her for the upcoming campaign, that the Labor Party doesn't think we should be spending money on maintenance, but we know that anyway because they kept cutting it when they were in office. Just extraordinary, isn't it? This is the Labor Party who like to portray themselves as—</text>
        <text id="202110135fb3db9742b7469a80000243">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202110135fb3db9742b7469a80000244">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202110135fb3db9742b7469a80000245">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  —looking after the most disadvantaged people in our society. Here they come—</text>
        <text id="202110135fb3db9742b7469a80000246">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202110135fb3db9742b7469a80000247">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  The Opposition Whip is out of order, as is the leader.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202110135fb3db9742b7469a80000248">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  —complaining about spending $50 million on maintenance—</text>
        <text id="202110135fb3db9742b7469a80000249">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202110135fb3db9742b7469a80000250">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202110135fb3db9742b7469a80000251">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  —and knowing that they cut the maintenance back.</text>
        <text id="202110135fb3db9742b7469a80000252">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="3122">The Hon. I.K. Hunter interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202110135fb3db9742b7469a80000253">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  The Hon. Mr Hunter!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202110135fb3db9742b7469a80000254">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  I think that's a fair indication, if the Labor Party were elected—</text>
        <text id="202110135fb3db9742b7469a80000255">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202110135fb3db9742b7469a80000256">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  The Hon. Mr Hunter will be silent.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202110135fb3db9742b7469a80000257">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  —of what will happen to the assets of—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5412" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. C.M. Scriven</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202110135fb3db9742b7469a80000258">
          <by role="member" id="5412">The Hon. C.M. Scriven:</by>  How much have you wasted?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202110135fb3db9742b7469a80000259">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  The deputy leader is not helping.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202110135fb3db9742b7469a80000260">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  —the South Australian Housing Authority. The Hon. Mr Hanson's question might have a little bit of a problem with arithmetic, because it is a $20 million program over 10 years and he is complaining about us allocating over $2 million of it.</text>
        <text id="202110135fb3db9742b7469a80000261">But that aside, one of the matters that had been raised was whether works were done on properties that were subsequently demolished, and the response on that is that there may be some properties that are brought up to spec for sale, which means that you will get a better sale price, but in terms of redoing works that is certainly not something that the Housing Trust undertakes.</text>
        <text id="202110135fb3db9742b7469a80000262">I do hear these interjections about the air conditioners, which will be installed when the electricity has been upgraded.</text>
      </talker>
    </subject>
  </proceeding>
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