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  <name>Legislative Council</name>
  <date date="2021-09-09" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Fourth Parliament, Second Session (54-2)</sessionName>
  <parliamentNum>54</parliamentNum>
  <sessionNum>2</sessionNum>
  <parliamentName>Parliament of South Australia</parliamentName>
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  <dateModified time="2022-08-06T14:30:00+00:00" />
  <proceeding continued="true">
    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>COVID-19 Restrictions</name>
      <text id="20210909f68f3335daa34877a0000260">
        <heading>COVID-19 Restrictions</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="5419" kind="question">
        <name>The Hon. F. PANGALLO</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <questions>
          <question date="2021-09-09">
            <name>COVID-19 Restrictions</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2021-09-09T15:19:05" />
        <text id="20210909f68f3335daa34877a0000261">
          <timeStamp time="2021-09-09T15:19:05" />
          <by role="member" id="5419">The Hon. F. PANGALLO (15:19):</by>  I seek leave to make a brief explanation before asking the Minister for Health and Wellbeing a question about COVID restrictions.</text>
        <text id="20210909f68f3335daa34877a0000262">Leave granted.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5419" kind="question" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. F. PANGALLO</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20210909f68f3335daa34877a0000263">
          <by role="member" id="5419">The Hon. F. PANGALLO:</by>  New South Wales Premier, Gladys Berejiklian, reportedly overruled the advice of their state's Chief Health Officer, Dr Kerry Chant, last night, to choose Monday 18 October as the date to reopen the New South Wales economy.</text>
        <text id="20210909f68f3335daa34877a0000264">The tentative reopening target is planned to coincide with 70 per cent of the state's eligible population being fully vaccinated, but Dr Chant reportedly advocated for a more careful plan for reopening, suggesting 80 per cent to 85 per cent vaccination coverage would be better suited to avoid the risk of entering another lockdown at a later date—one potentially more significant than the current one plaguing New South Wales. This occurred in an environment where New South Wales recorded 1,405 newly acquired COVID-19 cases and six more deaths. My question to the minister is:</text>
        <text id="20210909f68f3335daa34877a0000265">1.&amp;#x9;Does he agree with Premier Berejiklian's decision to reopen the New South Wales economy earlier than advised by Dr Chant?</text>
        <text id="20210909f68f3335daa34877a0000266">2.&amp;#x9;What is the targeted population vaccination rate being sought by our Chief Public Health Officer, Professor Nicola Spurrier, before this state's restrictions can be fully lifted?</text>
        <text id="20210909f68f3335daa34877a0000267">3.&amp;#x9;Does the State Coordinator and Premier agree with that target rate?</text>
        <text id="20210909f68f3335daa34877a0000268">4.&amp;#x9;Can the minister rule out the State Coordinator and/or the Premier making similar captain's calls as the New South Wales Premier did?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20210909f68f3335daa34877a0000269">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Before calling the minister, a couple of the questions sought the opinion of the minister on other people; however, I will invite the minister to respond to the other questions.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Health and Wellbeing</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <startTime time="2021-09-09T15:21:12" />
        <page num="4206" />
        <text id="20210909f68f3335daa34877a0000270">
          <timeStamp time="2021-09-09T15:21:12" />
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE (Minister for Health and Wellbeing) (15:21):</by>  Indeed, as the humble state health minister in South Australia I am not responsible for the advice the New South Wales Premier does or doesn't take from her chief health officer. However, to state the clear point, New South Wales and South Australia are in a vastly different situation. Tragically, New South Wales has very significant levels of community transmission, and its pathway out of the pandemic is much more challenging than ours. That doesn't mean that the hard work will be able to be eased off, and that is the hard work of the—</text>
        <text id="20210909f68f3335daa34877a0000271">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5413">The Hon. E.S. Bourke interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20210909f68f3335daa34877a0000272">
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE:</by>  If members of the opposition want to heckle me on the pandemic, let that be on the record.</text>
        <text id="20210909f68f3335daa34877a0000273">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20210909f68f3335daa34877a0000274">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT</by>:  Order! The minister will continue.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20210909f68f3335daa34877a0000275">
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE:</by>  Let the record show—</text>
        <text id="20210909f68f3335daa34877a0000276">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20210909f68f3335daa34877a0000277">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20210909f68f3335daa34877a0000278">
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE:</by>  —that the Labor opposition wants to mock me when I am talking about the hard work of the people of South Australia, the hard work of the SA Health workforce to try to get us out of this pandemic. There will be hard months ahead, so if the Labor opposition—</text>
        <text id="20210909f68f3335daa34877a0000279">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20210909f68f3335daa34877a0000280">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  The Hon. Mr Hunter is out of order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20210909f68f3335daa34877a0000281">
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE:</by>  —has decided that now is the time to talk about a bipartisan—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20210909f68f3335daa34877a0000282">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT</by>:  Order! There is a point of order. Minister, resume your seat.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20210909f68f3335daa34877a0000283">
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE:</by>  —approach to the pandemic—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20210909f68f3335daa34877a0000284">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Minister, resume your seat! There is a point of order from the Leader of the Opposition.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4697">
        <name>The Hon. K.J. MAHER</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20210909f68f3335daa34877a0000285">
          <by role="member" id="4697">The Hon. K.J. MAHER:</by>  Point of order: the minister was trying to impute motives on the opposition, as he said 'mocking him', not mocking the hard work of South Australians which we have all congratulated.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20210909f68f3335daa34877a0000286">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  There is no point of order. The minister is obviously going to conclude his comments very soon.</text>
        <text id="20210909f68f3335daa34877a0000287">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20210909f68f3335daa34877a0000288">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20210909f68f3335daa34877a0000289">
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE:</by>  Thank you, Mr President, for your—</text>
        <text id="20210909f68f3335daa34877a0000290">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20210909f68f3335daa34877a0000291">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20210909f68f3335daa34877a0000292">
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE:</by>  I could make the point that it will make it much more difficult to conclude quickly if I get heckled by the opposition because I have a duty to answer the question of the Hon. Mr Pangallo—</text>
        <text id="20210909f68f3335daa34877a0000293">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20210909f68f3335daa34877a0000294">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20210909f68f3335daa34877a0000295">
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE:</by>  —and their desire to stop me from giving it will not do so.</text>
        <text id="20210909f68f3335daa34877a0000296">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20210909f68f3335daa34877a0000297">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Order, the Hon. Mr Hunter!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <page num="4207" />
        <text id="20210909f68f3335daa34877a0000298">
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE:</by>  As Chair of the JPSC, I could ask you to please stop serving red cordial on Thursdays; it does terrible things to the Labor opposition.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4697">
        <name>The Hon. K.J. MAHER</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20210909f68f3335daa34877a0000299">
          <by role="member" id="4697">The Hon. K.J. MAHER:</by>  Point of order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20210909f68f3335daa34877a0000300">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  There is a point of order from the Leader of the Opposition.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4697">
        <name>The Hon. K.J. MAHER</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20210909f68f3335daa34877a0000301">
          <by role="member" id="4697">The Hon. K.J. MAHER:</by>  The minister seems to be mocking the hard work of South Australians during the pandemic.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20210909f68f3335daa34877a0000302">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  I didn't even hear what you said, but if you want to repeat it you may. No?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3122">
        <name>The Hon. I.K. HUNTER</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20210909f68f3335daa34877a0000303">
          <by role="member" id="3122">The Hon. I.K. HUNTER:</by>  Point of order: the minister obviously doesn't know that the JPSC does not sit or meet on a Thursday.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20210909f68f3335daa34877a0000304">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  There is no point of order in either of those. Has the minister concluded?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20210909f68f3335daa34877a0000305">
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE:</by>  Yes.</text>
      </talker>
    </subject>
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