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  <name>Legislative Council</name>
  <date date="2021-06-10" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Fourth Parliament, Second Session (54-2)</sessionName>
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  <sessionNum>2</sessionNum>
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  <proceeding continued="true">
    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Global Liveability Index</name>
      <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000201">
        <heading>Global Liveability Index</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="1820" kind="question">
        <name>The Hon. D.W. RIDGWAY</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <questions>
          <question date="2021-06-10">
            <name>Global Liveability Index</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2021-06-10T15:10:28" />
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000202">
          <timeStamp time="2021-06-10T15:10:28" />
          <by role="member" id="1820">The Hon. D.W. RIDGWAY (15:10):</by>  My question is to the Treasurer. Can the Treasurer please inform the chamber about recent reports about the most livable cities in the world and, secondly, the level of internet vacancies in South Australia?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="605" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. R.I. LUCAS</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <questions>
          <question date="2021-06-10">
            <name>Global Liveability Index</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2021-06-10T15:10:48" />
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000203">
          <timeStamp time="2021-06-10T15:10:48" />
          <by role="member" id="605">The Hon. R.I. LUCAS (Treasurer) (15:10):</by>  I just thought I would—</text>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000204">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000205">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="605" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. R.I. LUCAS</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000206">
          <by role="member" id="605">The Hon. R.I. LUCAS:</by>  —lighten the load and lift the spirits of the whole chamber—</text>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000207">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000208">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="605" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. R.I. LUCAS</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000209">
          <by role="member" id="605">The Hon. R.I. LUCAS:</by>  —by indicating some good news that I'm sure all members—</text>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000210">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000211">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Order! The opposition are out of order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="605" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. R.I. LUCAS</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000212">
          <by role="member" id="605">The Hon. R.I. LUCAS:</by>  —in this chamber would be delighted to share and to hear.</text>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000213">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000214">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="605" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. R.I. LUCAS</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <page num="3761" />
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000215">
          <by role="member" id="605">The Hon. R.I. LUCAS:</by>  There is too much human misery on the other side of the chamber. I want to lighten the load and share the good news. I'm delighted to be able to report that in the most recent international survey of the most livable cities in the world done by—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5244" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. J.E. Hanson</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000216">
          <by role="member" id="5244">The Hon. J.E. Hanson:</by>  In the world?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="605" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. R.I. LUCAS</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000217">
          <by role="member" id="605">The Hon. R.I. LUCAS:</by>  In the world. Not just in Australia, in the world, done by <term>The Economist</term>. Adelaide, our city, has soared up the rankings—soared—from a lowly 10<sup>th</sup> when it was last done two or three years ago, which is still nevertheless quite impressive, to third in the global rankings—third. It is the most livable city in the world behind Auckland and Osaka, in relation to the most livable cities in the world.</text>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000218">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5244">The Hon. J.E. Hanson interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000219">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  The Hon. Mr Hanson is out of order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="605" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. R.I. LUCAS</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000220">
          <by role="member" id="605">The Hon. R.I. LUCAS:</by>  It's a complex calculation. I will not spend—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5413" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. E.S. Bourke</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000221">
          <by role="member" id="5413">The Hon. E.S. Bourke:</by>  What have you built in the city to make it the most livable city?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000222">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  And so is the Hon. Ms Bourke!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="605" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. R.I. LUCAS</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000223">
          <by role="member" id="605">The Hon. R.I. LUCAS:</by>  —too much time going through all the detail. We are not that far behind the top, so there is a bit of work still to be done by the Marshall Liberal government. We are only—</text>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000224">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000225">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Order on both sides!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="605" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. R.I. LUCAS</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000226">
          <by role="member" id="605">The Hon. R.I. LUCAS:</by>  —two points behind the top ranking. Auckland is at 96 out of 100.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4697">
        <name>The Hon. K.J. MAHER</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000227">
          <by role="member" id="4697">The Hon. K.J. MAHER:</by>  Point of order, sir.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000228">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Point of order. The Treasurer will resume his seat.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4697">
        <name>The Hon. K.J. MAHER</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000229">
          <by role="member" id="4697">The Hon. K.J. MAHER:</by>  I seek your guidance about quoting from a document and the ability to seek that document be tabled, as the Treasurer was quoting from his phone. I recall a previous President making a ruling that the phone ought to be tabled.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000230">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  The Treasurer has been here long enough to know the rules of this place. I'm sure that he doesn't want to risk tabling his phone.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="605" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. R.I. LUCAS</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000231">
          <by role="member" id="605">The Hon. R.I. LUCAS:</by>  I'm not proposing to table my phone. This is actually a Google search, which I can suggest to the Leader of the Opposition, on a Newscorp website.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4697">
        <name>The Hon. K.J. MAHER</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000232">
          <by role="member" id="4697">The Hon. K.J. MAHER:</by>  Point of order: I seek your clarification on whether we are departing from the ruling the previous President made on this issue?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000233">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  I am not going to engage in tabling telephones, but the Treasurer has offered to table the document that is on his phone.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="605" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. R.I. LUCAS</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000234">
          <by role="member" id="605">The Hon. R.I. LUCAS:</by>  There has never been a position where a phone has ever been tabled in this house, to my knowledge.</text>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000235">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000236">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Order! Interjections are out of order, but if there is an interjection about a former President, you should use his proper name. The Treasurer will continue in silence.</text>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000237">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000238">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="605" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. R.I. LUCAS</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000239">
          <by role="member" id="605">The Hon. R.I. LUCAS:</by>  The rankings show Auckland at 96 out of 100 and Adelaide third, just behind at 94, but pleasingly when <term>The Economist</term> ranks Adelaide against all the other livable cities in the world on health care, Adelaide ranked at 100 out of 100 for health care, so my compliments to my colleague the Minister for Health. When they ranked education—</text>
        <page num="3762" />
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000240">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000241">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="605" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. R.I. LUCAS</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000242">
          <by role="member" id="605">The Hon. R.I. LUCAS:</by>  —they ranked Adelaide at 100 out of 100, so my compliments to the minister for—</text>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000243">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000244">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Order!</text>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000245">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5244">The Hon. J.E. Hanson interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000246">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  The Hon. Mr Hanson might find it funny, but I don't. He ought to come to order, as should the whole chamber. I'm sure the Treasurer is going to bring this answer to a conclusion soon.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="605" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. R.I. LUCAS</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000247">
          <by role="member" id="605">The Hon. R.I. LUCAS:</by>  I have only really been going for about 90 seconds.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000248">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  No, that is not true.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="605" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. R.I. LUCAS</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000249">
          <by role="member" id="605">The Hon. R.I. LUCAS:</by>  That's because of all the points of order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000250">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  No.</text>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000251">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000252">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="605" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. R.I. LUCAS</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000253">
          <by role="member" id="605">The Hon. R.I. LUCAS:</by>  A hundred out of a hundred, so my compliments to the Minister for Education.</text>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000254">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000255">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="605" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. R.I. LUCAS</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000256">
          <by role="member" id="605">The Hon. R.I. LUCAS:</by>  And on infrastructure, Adelaide again ranked in the high nineties in relation to the livability index.</text>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000257">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000258">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="605" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. R.I. LUCAS</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000259">
          <by role="member" id="605">The Hon. R.I. LUCAS:</by>  So, Mr President, read it and weep.</text>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000260">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000261">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT</by>:  Order! The Treasurer will resume his seat. The Hon. Mr Darley has the call.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4363">
        <name>The Hon. T.A. FRANKS</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000262">
          <by role="member" id="4363">The Hon. T.A. FRANKS:</by>  Supplementary.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000263">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  The Hon. Mr Darley has the call.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4363">
        <name>The Hon. T.A. FRANKS</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000264">
          <by role="member" id="4363">The Hon. T.A. FRANKS:</by>  Supplementary, Mr President—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000265">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  No, the Hon. Mr Darley has the call. We are moving on.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4363">
        <name>The Hon. T.A. FRANKS</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000266">
          <by role="member" id="4363">The Hon. T.A. FRANKS:</by>  Supplementary, Mr President. I have a supplementary on the answer.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000267">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  A supplementary on that answer?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4363">
        <name>The Hon. T.A. FRANKS</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000268">
          <by role="member" id="4363">The Hon. T.A. FRANKS:</by>  Indeed I do. Are we not allowing supplementaries now?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202106108bfac976358f4e1e80000269">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  I will call you.</text>
      </talker>
    </subject>
  </proceeding>
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