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  <name>Legislative Council</name>
  <date date="2021-05-05" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Fourth Parliament, Second Session (54-2)</sessionName>
  <parliamentNum>54</parliamentNum>
  <sessionNum>2</sessionNum>
  <parliamentName>Parliament of South Australia</parliamentName>
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  <dateModified time="2022-08-06T14:30:00+00:00" />
  <proceeding continued="true">
    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Crisis Accommodation</name>
      <text id="202105058e8b85adafe04272b0000068">
        <heading>Crisis Accommodation</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="5412" kind="question">
        <name>The Hon. C.M. SCRIVEN</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <questions>
          <question date="2021-05-05">
            <name>Crisis Accommodation</name>
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        <startTime time="2021-05-05T14:30:41" />
        <text id="202105058e8b85adafe04272b0000069">
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          <by role="member" id="5412">The Hon. C.M. SCRIVEN (14:30):</by>  Supplementary: is the minister saying that the city crisis accommodation beds will not close?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Human Services</name>
          </portfolio>
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        <questions>
          <question date="2021-05-05">
            <name>Crisis Accommodation</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2021-05-05T14:30:49" />
        <text id="202105058e8b85adafe04272b0000070">
          <timeStamp time="2021-05-05T14:30:49" />
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK (Minister for Human Services) (14:30):</by>  What I am saying is that there are negotiations going forward, and the winning alliance has stated—I think they have stated publicly as well—that the number of beds going forward will be maintained, but the exact location of that is yet to be determined, particularly when there are negotiations taking place. I am not going to insert myself into that process by making them—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3122" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. I.K. Hunter</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202105058e8b85adafe04272b0000071">
          <by role="member" id="3122">The Hon. I.K. Hunter:</by>  No, you're just the minister; you're just the one who makes the decisions—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202105058e8b85adafe04272b0000072">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3122" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. I.K. Hunter</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202105058e8b85adafe04272b0000073">
          <by role="member" id="3122">The Hon. I.K. Hunter:</by>  —you're not going to insert yourself in the process at all!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202105058e8b85adafe04272b0000074">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Order, the Hon. Mr Hunter!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202105058e8b85adafe04272b0000075">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  By way of one of the Labor member's interjections, I probably should explain a little bit—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3122" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. I.K. Hunter</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202105058e8b85adafe04272b0000076">
          <by role="member" id="3122">The Hon. I.K. Hunter:</by>  This is an outrage. Beds closing in the middle of winter. Who has thought this up?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202105058e8b85adafe04272b0000077">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Order, the Hon. Mr Hunter!</text>
        <text id="202105058e8b85adafe04272b0000078">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="3122">The Hon. I.K. Hunter interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202105058e8b85adafe04272b0000079">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  The Hon. Mr Hunter is out of order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202105058e8b85adafe04272b0000080">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  —about how the model will operate. Under the old model, we had the existing services.</text>
        <text id="202105058e8b85adafe04272b0000081">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202105058e8b85adafe04272b0000082">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202105058e8b85adafe04272b0000083">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  They were all prescribed about what service type—</text>
        <page num="3257" />
        <text id="202105058e8b85adafe04272b0000084">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202105058e8b85adafe04272b0000085">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202105058e8b85adafe04272b0000086">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  —cohort, and so we have had this system that hasn't had a good look at for 10 years, which can't move funding around to where it's needed most. If you are prescribed to provide a particular service type to a particular cohort you can't shift that funding, yet when there are things that are going on in the community, such as if there is a surge in domestic and family violence, then we can't shift that funding around.</text>
        <text id="202105058e8b85adafe04272b0000087">Instead of taking the individual command control approach with the non-government sector, we have said to them we want to give them the power to determine these things. The money was pooled together. The alliance tenders were released and assessed, and we are looking for a collective approach, something I thought the Labor Party thought they were all over. It's a collective approach—</text>
        <text id="202105058e8b85adafe04272b0000088">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202105058e8b85adafe04272b0000089">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT</by>:  Order! The minister will be heard in silence.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202105058e8b85adafe04272b0000090">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  It is a collective approach, where the organisations have their own governance structure to determine changes to needs as they arise in the community.</text>
      </talker>
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