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  <name>Legislative Council</name>
  <date date="2020-09-24" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Fourth Parliament, Second Session (54-2)</sessionName>
  <parliamentNum>54</parliamentNum>
  <sessionNum>2</sessionNum>
  <parliamentName>Parliament of South Australia</parliamentName>
  <house>Legislative Council</house>
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  <reviewStage>published</reviewStage>
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  <dateModified time="2022-08-06T14:30:00+00:00" />
  <proceeding continued="true">
    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Coronavirus, Travel</name>
      <text id="20200924f391c2151abd4f52b0000352">
        <heading>Coronavirus, Travel</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="5419" kind="question">
        <name>The Hon. F. PANGALLO</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <questions>
          <question date="2020-09-24">
            <name>Coronavirus, Travel</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2020-09-24T14:36:41" />
        <text id="20200924f391c2151abd4f52b0000353">
          <timeStamp time="2020-09-24T14:36:41" />
          <by role="member" id="5419">The Hon. F. PANGALLO (14:36):</by>  Thank you, Mr President. Does the minister not see that Mr McDowell is also a member of the state Transition Committee and that perhaps could be a perceived conflict of interest?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Health and Wellbeing</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <questions>
          <question date="2020-09-24">
            <name>Coronavirus, Travel</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2020-09-24T14:36:53" />
        <text id="20200924f391c2151abd4f52b0000354">
          <timeStamp time="2020-09-24T14:36:53" />
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE (Minister for Health and Wellbeing) (14:36):</by>  As I said, Mr McDowell is not undertaking the review himself—</text>
        <text id="20200924f391c2151abd4f52b0000355">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200924f391c2151abd4f52b0000356">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200924f391c2151abd4f52b0000357">
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE:</by>  —is my understanding. I think we are using the term 'conflict of interest' a bit broadly there anyway. All of us have an interest in government departments undertaking continuous improvement, and we have seen that—</text>
        <text id="20200924f391c2151abd4f52b0000358">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200924f391c2151abd4f52b0000359">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT</by>:  Order!  </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200924f391c2151abd4f52b0000360">
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE:</by>  We have seen that in the context of COVID-19 in relation to the—</text>
        <text id="20200924f391c2151abd4f52b0000361">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200924f391c2151abd4f52b0000362">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Order! The Hon. Mr Hunter and the Hon. Clare Scriven are out of order. Now I want to hear the minister.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4697" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. K.J. Maher</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200924f391c2151abd4f52b0000363">
          <by role="member" id="4697">The Hon. K.J. Maher:</by>  The minister is covering up again.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200924f391c2151abd4f52b0000364">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  I would like to listen to him.</text>
        <text id="20200924f391c2151abd4f52b0000365">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4697">The Hon. K.J. Maher interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200924f391c2151abd4f52b0000366">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200924f391c2151abd4f52b0000367">
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE:</by>  We have seen that in the context of the hotel quarantine review initiated by the federal government. We have seen that in the context of the work done within the South Australian government in relation to—</text>
        <text id="20200924f391c2151abd4f52b0000368">
          <term>There being a technical disturbance:</term>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200924f391c2151abd4f52b0000369">
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE:</by>  I'm sorry, I'm not sure what I need to do to avoid that.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4697" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. K.J. Maher</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200924f391c2151abd4f52b0000370">
          <by role="member" id="4697">The Hon. K.J. Maher:</by>  Tell the truth.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200924f391c2151abd4f52b0000371">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. Lensink</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200924f391c2151abd4f52b0000372">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. Lensink:</by>  That's a dad joke.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200924f391c2151abd4f52b0000373">
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE:</by>  It's not a dad joke: it's a childish interjection.</text>
        <text id="20200924f391c2151abd4f52b0000374">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200924f391c2151abd4f52b0000375">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Order! I want to hear the minister conclude his answer.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <page num="1815" />
        <text id="20200924f391c2151abd4f52b0000376">
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE:</by>  As I said, it is not new practice. We have right through this pandemic been undertaking a number of reviews—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3122" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. I.K. Hunter</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200924f391c2151abd4f52b0000377">
          <by role="member" id="3122">The Hon. I.K. Hunter:</by>  Not into yourselves. This looks crook.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200924f391c2151abd4f52b0000378">
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE:</by>  Sorry, they have been into ourselves. We have had—</text>
        <text id="20200924f391c2151abd4f52b0000379">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200924f391c2151abd4f52b0000380">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200924f391c2151abd4f52b0000381">
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE:</by>  —SA government officers looking at SA government processes to see how they can be improved.</text>
        <text id="20200924f391c2151abd4f52b0000382">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200924f391c2151abd4f52b0000383">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200924f391c2151abd4f52b0000384">
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE:</by>  Is this bizarre? Is the opposition really suggesting—</text>
        <text id="20200924f391c2151abd4f52b0000385">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="3122">The Hon. I.K. Hunter interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200924f391c2151abd4f52b0000386">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Order, the Hon. Mr Hunter!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200924f391c2151abd4f52b0000387">
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE:</by>  —it's inappropriate for somebody within the South Australian government to suggest how the South Australian government can improve its processes? Well, that's another indication about why they were such a hopeless government for 16 years.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200924f391c2151abd4f52b0000388">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  The Hon. Ms Bourke has the call.</text>
      </talker>
    </subject>
  </proceeding>
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