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  <name>Legislative Council</name>
  <date date="2020-09-23" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Fourth Parliament, Second Session (54-2)</sessionName>
  <parliamentNum>54</parliamentNum>
  <sessionNum>2</sessionNum>
  <parliamentName>Parliament of South Australia</parliamentName>
  <house>Legislative Council</house>
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  <dateModified time="2022-08-06T14:30:00+00:00" />
  <proceeding continued="true">
    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Public Housing</name>
      <text id="20200923bbb7849f0ef843ebb0000139">
        <heading>Public Housing</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="5413" kind="question">
        <name>The Hon. E.S. BOURKE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <questions>
          <question date="2020-09-23">
            <name>Public Housing</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2020-09-23T14:39:40" />
        <text id="20200923bbb7849f0ef843ebb0000140">
          <timeStamp time="2020-09-23T14:39:40" />
          <by role="member" id="5413">The Hon. E.S. BOURKE (14:39):</by>  A supplementary.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200923bbb7849f0ef843ebb0000141">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  The final one, the Hon. Ms Bourke.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5413" kind="question" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. E.S. BOURKE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200923bbb7849f0ef843ebb0000142">
          <by role="member" id="5413">The Hon. E.S. BOURKE:</by>  Would the minister be disappointed to find that only 15 per cent of that fund had been spent during the year?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Human Services</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <startTime time="2020-09-23T14:40:10" />
        <text id="20200923bbb7849f0ef843ebb0000143">
          <timeStamp time="2020-09-23T14:40:10" />
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK (Minister for Human Services) (14:40):</by>  The honourable member is asking me to put a particular opinion on something. I understand the way that these things can work—</text>
        <text id="20200923bbb7849f0ef843ebb0000144">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200923bbb7849f0ef843ebb0000145">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <page num="1733" />
        <text id="20200923bbb7849f0ef843ebb0000146">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  —in terms of there being reasons why things might take longer than we hoped. Particularly within government, there are probity issues that need to be dealt with, particular policies which are applied, which are more than appropriate to ensure that any of the contracts that have been let have been done appropriately.</text>
        <text id="20200923bbb7849f0ef843ebb0000147">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200923bbb7849f0ef843ebb0000148">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200923bbb7849f0ef843ebb0000149">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  So there is a range of reasons. What the honourable members are suggesting, disorderly through their interjections, is that we should just stick the money out there and see who comes and grabs it first, and say, 'It's available. Come and get it'—</text>
        <text id="20200923bbb7849f0ef843ebb0000150">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200923bbb7849f0ef843ebb0000151">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Order, the Hon. Mr Hanson! Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200923bbb7849f0ef843ebb0000152">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  'Why don't you come to us? As long as you can point us to a straw house or a paper house, we will sign that one off, as long as it looks and sounds and feels like it.' We believe in doing things in terms of probity. They are strict rules within government in terms of how these contracts are made.</text>
        <text id="20200923bbb7849f0ef843ebb0000153">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200923bbb7849f0ef843ebb0000154">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Order! The Hon. Mr Hanson will come to order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5244" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. J.E. Hanson</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200923bbb7849f0ef843ebb0000155">
          <by role="member" id="5244">The Hon. J.E. Hanson:</by>  It's embarrassing.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200923bbb7849f0ef843ebb0000156">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5413" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. E.S. Bourke</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200923bbb7849f0ef843ebb0000157">
          <by role="member" id="5413">The Hon. E.S. Bourke:</by>  The only person that's happy about that is Rob.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200923bbb7849f0ef843ebb0000158">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  The Hon. Ms Bourke asked a number of supplementary questions, and she is now not listening. She is having a conversation with another member across the chamber, and that is totally out of order. I'm sure the minister is about to conclude her answer and then we will move on.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200923bbb7849f0ef843ebb0000159">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  Yes, Mr President. Indeed, we do need to follow the rules. The Housing Authority certainly plays by the rules, as I am sure all of the agencies do in terms of ensuring that it has probity and appropriate contracts.</text>
        <text id="20200923bbb7849f0ef843ebb0000160">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200923bbb7849f0ef843ebb0000161">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200923bbb7849f0ef843ebb0000162">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  Certainly, the feedback that we have had from the industry is that our stimulus money—</text>
        <text id="20200923bbb7849f0ef843ebb0000163">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="3122">The Hon. I.K. Hunter interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200923bbb7849f0ef843ebb0000164">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  The Hon. Mr Hunter will come to order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200923bbb7849f0ef843ebb0000165">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  —saved jobs, helped building companies through the most difficult times when everybody else was not making decisions—</text>
        <text id="20200923bbb7849f0ef843ebb0000166">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200923bbb7849f0ef843ebb0000167">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200923bbb7849f0ef843ebb0000168">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  —to engage building. When the market was flat, when individuals weren't engaging building companies, the Marshall Liberal government was there to support them.</text>
        <text id="20200923bbb7849f0ef843ebb0000169">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200923bbb7849f0ef843ebb0000170">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Order! The Hon. Mr Ridgway has the call.</text>
        <text id="20200923bbb7849f0ef843ebb0000171">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <page num="1734" />
        <text id="20200923bbb7849f0ef843ebb0000172">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Order! The Hon. Mr Wortley knows better. The Hon. Mr Ridgway has the call.</text>
      </talker>
    </subject>
  </proceeding>
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