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  <name>Legislative Council</name>
  <date date="2020-09-09" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Fourth Parliament, Second Session (54-2)</sessionName>
  <parliamentNum>54</parliamentNum>
  <sessionNum>2</sessionNum>
  <parliamentName>Parliament of South Australia</parliamentName>
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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Women's and Children's Hospital</name>
      <text id="20200909ea18d7c9c0e44101a0000154">
        <heading>Women's and Children's Hospital</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="5413" kind="question">
        <name>The Hon. E.S. BOURKE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <questions>
          <question date="2020-09-09">
            <name>Women's and Children's Hospital</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2020-09-09T14:56:13" />
        <text id="20200909ea18d7c9c0e44101a0000155">
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          <by role="member" id="5413">The Hon. E.S. BOURKE (14:56):</by>  I seek leave to make a brief explanation before asking a question of the Minister for Health and Wellbeing regarding hospitals.</text>
        <text id="20200909ea18d7c9c0e44101a0000156">Leave granted.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5413" kind="question" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. E.S. BOURKE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <page num="1572" />
        <text id="20200909ea18d7c9c0e44101a0000157">
          <by role="member" id="5413">The Hon. E.S. BOURKE:</by>  In August, a group of clinicians, staff and community members formed the Women's and Children's Hospital Alliance. This group seeks to voice, and I quote, 'enormous concerns about chronic and escalating understaffing and under-resourcing of the existing hospital, which threatens patient care and staff morale'. My questions to the minister are:</text>
        <text id="20200909ea18d7c9c0e44101a0000158">1.&amp;#x9;Does the minister recognise the need for additional resources over and above the existing sustainment works funding allocated to the current Women's and Children's Hospital site?</text>
        <text id="20200909ea18d7c9c0e44101a0000159">2.&amp;#x9;What did the minister promise to clinicians when he met them last Wednesday to discuss cardiac surgery at the Women's and Children's Hospital?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Health and Wellbeing</name>
          </portfolio>
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        <startTime time="2020-09-09T14:57:09" />
        <text id="20200909ea18d7c9c0e44101a0000160">
          <timeStamp time="2020-09-09T14:57:09" />
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE (Minister for Health and Wellbeing) (14:57):</by>  I would like to thank the member for a touch of honesty. She acknowledged that the under-resourcing of the Women's and Children's Hospital that the alliance refers to is chronic. In other words, the former Labor government gave us a hospital network that was debilitated—completely debilitated—</text>
        <text id="20200909ea18d7c9c0e44101a0000161">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200909ea18d7c9c0e44101a0000162">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Order on my left!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200909ea18d7c9c0e44101a0000163">
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE:</by>  —particularly because of the disaster of the Transforming Health experiment.</text>
        <text id="20200909ea18d7c9c0e44101a0000164">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200909ea18d7c9c0e44101a0000165">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Order! Minister, sit down, please. I am trying to hear the minister and I can't hear the minister, so I suspect that Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition can't hear the minister. The minister has the call and will be heard in silence.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200909ea18d7c9c0e44101a0000166">
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE:</by>  So what this government has done is, since the last Labor budget, it has invested—</text>
        <text id="20200909ea18d7c9c0e44101a0000167">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200909ea18d7c9c0e44101a0000168">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Do you want to hear the minister's response or not? The minister has the call.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>An honourable member</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200909ea18d7c9c0e44101a0000169">
          <by role="office">An honourable member:</by>  Arrogant.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200909ea18d7c9c0e44101a0000170">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  No, that doesn't help either. I don't want interjections on either side.</text>
        <text id="20200909ea18d7c9c0e44101a0000171">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200909ea18d7c9c0e44101a0000172">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Order!</text>
        <text id="20200909ea18d7c9c0e44101a0000173">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200909ea18d7c9c0e44101a0000174">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  The Leader of the Opposition knows better than that. The minister has the call.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200909ea18d7c9c0e44101a0000175">
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE:</by>  The point I was making was, since the last Labor budget, the Marshall Liberal government has invested tens of millions of dollars in the Women's and Children's Hospital, and my expectation is that funding will continue to increase. But let me make it clear to the union and to the community people who are working with the union: their claim of a $100 million increase in the WCHN budget is clearly an ambit claim—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3122" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. I.K. Hunter</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200909ea18d7c9c0e44101a0000176">
          <by role="member" id="3122">The Hon. I.K. Hunter:</by>  You're running the show down, Stephen. You're running it down.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200909ea18d7c9c0e44101a0000177">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  The Hon. Mr Hunter will be silent.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200909ea18d7c9c0e44101a0000178">
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE:</by>  —it is unsubstantiated and it is unrealistic. The government has indicated that, as we have done in the past, we will continue to invest in quality women's and children's services, but ambit claims by unions do not help the public discussion. I accept that every clinician and every hospital would like increased resources for their services and their patients, but clinicians need to work with the management and with the board to effectively use the funding available to them to strengthen and grow their services.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200909ea18d7c9c0e44101a0000179">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  The Hon. Ms Bourke, a supplementary.</text>
      </talker>
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