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  <name>Legislative Council</name>
  <date date="2020-07-23" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Fourth Parliament, Second Session (54-2)</sessionName>
  <parliamentNum>54</parliamentNum>
  <sessionNum>2</sessionNum>
  <parliamentName>Parliament of South Australia</parliamentName>
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  <dateModified time="2022-08-06T14:30:00+00:00" />
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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Safeguarding and Worker Screening</name>
      <text id="20200723097f4fadd649432db0000473">
        <heading>Safeguarding and Worker Screening</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="4697" kind="question">
        <name>The Hon. K.J. MAHER</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Leader of the Opposition</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <questions>
          <question date="2020-07-23">
            <name>Safeguarding and Worker Screening</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2020-07-23T14:30:28" />
        <text id="20200723097f4fadd649432db0000474">
          <timeStamp time="2020-07-23T14:30:28" />
          <by role="member" id="4697">The Hon. K.J. MAHER (Leader of the Opposition) (14:30):</by>  Supplementary arising from the answer the minister has just given: what were the four options that the minister was advised to advocate for?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Human Services</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <questions>
          <question date="2020-07-23">
            <name>Safeguarding and Worker Screening</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2020-07-23T14:30:40" />
        <text id="20200723097f4fadd649432db0000475">
          <timeStamp time="2020-07-23T14:30:40" />
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK (Minister for Human Services) (14:30):</by>  Clearly, the member has a piece of correspondence. I have said before that I don't have—</text>
        <text id="20200723097f4fadd649432db0000476">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4697">The Hon. K.J. Maher interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200723097f4fadd649432db0000477">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:  Order!</by> The honourable Leader of the Opposition, it's your question the minister is attempting to answer. Please, listen in silence.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <page num="1462" />
        <text id="20200723097f4fadd649432db0000478">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  I don't have a photographic memory. If the honourable member wants to—</text>
        <text id="20200723097f4fadd649432db0000479">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4697">The Hon. K.J. Maher interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200723097f4fadd649432db0000480">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:  Order!</by>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200723097f4fadd649432db0000481">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  This is some silly trick that the Labor Party likes to engage in. 'We've got an FOI, we've got the document in front of us, so we can point to the things that are in it'—</text>
        <text id="20200723097f4fadd649432db0000482">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200723097f4fadd649432db0000483">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200723097f4fadd649432db0000484">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  —'why can't you tell what's in it?' Because you may be reading hundreds of pages a day but you need to have some instant recollection—</text>
        <text id="20200723097f4fadd649432db0000485">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200723097f4fadd649432db0000486">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200723097f4fadd649432db0000487">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  —know the name of the secretary of the federal department of DSS.</text>
        <text id="20200723097f4fadd649432db0000488">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200723097f4fadd649432db0000489">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200723097f4fadd649432db0000490">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  I mean, it's just facile, Mr President. It's just facile the way the Labor Party operates. They think they are going to come in here with some sort of juvenile 'gotcha' moment about a particular page and options and, 'Oh, well, it wasn't 1A, it was 1C because I've got it right here, let me show it to you now—ooh.' I just don't know where they're at, Mr President. I would have thought that some serious policy issues—they have had a golden opportunity with the task force to make a submission—</text>
        <text id="20200723097f4fadd649432db0000491">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200723097f4fadd649432db0000492">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200723097f4fadd649432db0000493">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  —to make a submission to the task force and show—</text>
        <text id="20200723097f4fadd649432db0000494">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200723097f4fadd649432db0000495">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT</by>:  Order! The Hon. Ms Lee, you are not helping. The honourable Leader of the Opposition and the Hon. Mr Hunter! Minister, please continue.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200723097f4fadd649432db0000496">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  To show that they might be able to come up with some original ideas, to consult stakeholders, to talk to people with lived experience, to talk to people who have decades of experience in the disability sector about what are the gaps in safeguarding.</text>
        <text id="20200723097f4fadd649432db0000497">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="3122">The Hon. I.K. Hunter interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200723097f4fadd649432db0000498">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Order, the Hon. Mr Hunter!</text>
        <text id="20200723097f4fadd649432db0000499">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="599">The Hon. J.S.L. Dawkins interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200723097f4fadd649432db0000500">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  The Hon. Mr Dawkins!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200723097f4fadd649432db0000501">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  Instead they have a document obtained under FOI, 'Was it 1C, Was it 2D, with minus this?' It's just beyond me, Mr President.</text>
        <text id="20200723097f4fadd649432db0000502">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="3122">The Hon. I.K. Hunter interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200723097f4fadd649432db0000503">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:  Order!</by> The Hon. Mr Hunter, if you want to ask a question, stand up; otherwise be silent. The honourable Leader of the Opposition.</text>
      </talker>
    </subject>
  </proceeding>
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