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  <name>Legislative Council</name>
  <date date="2020-07-22" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Fourth Parliament, Second Session (54-2)</sessionName>
  <parliamentNum>54</parliamentNum>
  <sessionNum>2</sessionNum>
  <parliamentName>Parliament of South Australia</parliamentName>
  <house>Legislative Council</house>
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  <dateModified time="2022-08-06T14:30:00+00:00" />
  <proceeding continued="true">
    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Disability Services</name>
      <text id="20200722481b3294e0f24752a0000396">
        <heading>Disability Services</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="5413" kind="question">
        <name>The Hon. E.S. BOURKE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <questions>
          <question date="2020-07-22">
            <name>Disability Services</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2020-07-22T14:40:57" />
        <text id="20200722481b3294e0f24752a0000397">
          <timeStamp time="2020-07-22T14:40:57" />
          <by role="member" id="5413">The Hon. E.S. BOURKE (14:40):</by>  I seek leave to make a brief explanation before asking a question of the Minister for Human Services regarding screening.</text>
        <text id="20200722481b3294e0f24752a0000398">Leave granted.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5413" kind="question" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. E.S. BOURKE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200722481b3294e0f24752a0000399">
          <by role="member" id="5413">The Hon. E.S. BOURKE:</by>  Yesterday, the minister again failed to answer a simple and direct question about when she knew that dozens of unscreened integrity care workers had applied for clearances. My questions to the minister are: when did the minister know, and is the minister refusing to answer because she or her office are under investigation?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200722481b3294e0f24752a0000400">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Minister for Human Services. There was a fair bit of opinion in that question, the Hon. Ms Bourke.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Human Services</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <startTime time="2020-07-22T14:41:35" />
        <text id="20200722481b3294e0f24752a0000401">
          <timeStamp time="2020-07-22T14:41:35" />
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK (Minister for Human Services) (14:41):</by>  The response to the last part of the question is no. I have been at pains to repeat that, while these matters are under a police investigation, a quality and safeguarding investigation, it probably bears reminding the Labor Party and the South Australian public that the intention is to work out whether the organisation is appropriate to be registered, whether there are criminal matters. It is inappropriate for me to be providing replies to those sort of details in the public domain, and I would respectfully ask that the Labor Party cease this line of questioning if they have any respect for the process—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3122" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. I.K. Hunter</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200722481b3294e0f24752a0000402">
          <by role="member" id="3122">The Hon. I.K. Hunter:</by>  It's a question about your knowledge, your factual knowledge as minister.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200722481b3294e0f24752a0000403">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200722481b3294e0f24752a0000404">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  —and if they have any genuine desire for justice to be brought—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3122" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. I.K. Hunter</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200722481b3294e0f24752a0000405">
          <by role="member" id="3122">The Hon. I.K. Hunter:</by>  You're just fudging it.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200722481b3294e0f24752a0000406">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200722481b3294e0f24752a0000407">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  —in the case of the—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3122" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. I.K. Hunter</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <page num="1358" />
        <text id="20200722481b3294e0f24752a0000408">
          <by role="member" id="3122">The Hon. I.K. Hunter:</by>  You're just fudging it, you're making this up as you go along.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200722481b3294e0f24752a0000409">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200722481b3294e0f24752a0000410">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  —abhorrent death of Ann Marie Smith.</text>
        <text id="20200722481b3294e0f24752a0000411">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200722481b3294e0f24752a0000412">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3122" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. I.K. Hunter</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200722481b3294e0f24752a0000413">
          <by role="member" id="3122">The Hon. I.K. Hunter:</by>  There is no requirement, it's about what you knew, and when.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200722481b3294e0f24752a0000414">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT</by>:  Order! The Hon. Mr Hunter, please let the minister finish answering the question and not badger her so that—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3122" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. I.K. Hunter</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200722481b3294e0f24752a0000415">
          <by role="member" id="3122">The Hon. I.K. Hunter:</by>  Sir, she is refusing to answer a simple question.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200722481b3294e0f24752a0000416">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  It is not a discussion, the Hon. Mr Hunter. I cannot hear the answer. Minister, please finish your answer.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200722481b3294e0f24752a0000417">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  If the Labor Party has any respect for the memory of Ann Marie Smith, and for the police investigation that is being undertaken, for the investigation into the provider—</text>
        <text id="20200722481b3294e0f24752a0000418">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4697">The Hon. K.J. Maher interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200722481b3294e0f24752a0000419">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:  Order!</by>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200722481b3294e0f24752a0000420">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  —they would cease and desist from this line of questioning.</text>
      </talker>
    </subject>
  </proceeding>
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