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  <name>Legislative Council</name>
  <date date="2020-07-21" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Fourth Parliament, Second Session (54-2)</sessionName>
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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Coronavirus</name>
      <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000261">
        <heading>Coronavirus</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="5414" kind="question">
        <name>The Hon. I. PNEVMATIKOS</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <questions>
          <question date="2020-07-21">
            <name>Coronavirus</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2020-07-21T15:08:28" />
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000262">
          <timeStamp time="2020-07-21T15:08:28" />
          <by role="member" id="5414">The Hon. I. PNEVMATIKOS (15:08):</by>  My questions are to the Minister for Health and Wellbeing regarding COVID-19 testing clinics:</text>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000263">1.&amp;#x9;Why is there currently a wait of up to five, even six, hours at our metropolitan COVID-19 testing clinics?</text>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000264">2.&amp;#x9;Why is the Premier claiming that there are 60 sites for people to attend without a referral when the government's own website says that there are only 48 sites, of which only 10 are walk-ins with no appointments required?</text>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000265">3.&amp;#x9;Why are there only two drive-through clinics in the metropolitan area?</text>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000266">4.&amp;#x9;Why is GP referral required to these clinics?</text>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000267">5.&amp;#x9;Will the minister consider adding additional drive-through clinics in the metropolitan area and remove the GP referral requirement, allowing more people to get tested quickly and conveniently?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Health and Wellbeing</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <questions>
          <question date="2020-07-21">
            <name>Coronavirus</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2020-07-21T15:09:22" />
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000268">
          <timeStamp time="2020-07-21T15:09:22" />
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE (Minister for Health and Wellbeing) (15:09):</by>  It is quite an extraordinary question and it's yet another example of the Labor Party wanting to be the driving force behind the public health response to COVID-19. One example why GP's referrals—</text>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000269">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5412">The Hon. C.M. Scriven interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000270">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:  Order!</by>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000271">
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE:</by>  —are needed—</text>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000272">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5412">The Hon. C.M. Scriven interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000273">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:  Order!</by>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000274">
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE:</by>  —is because SA Pathology and the public health team actually want people to have a GP who can follow up their test. We don't expect people to understand and be able to unpack their pathology test. We want to make sure that people have continuity of care. It was SA Pathology's clinical judgement that the best thing to do was to have GP referrals to metropolitan drive-through clinics.</text>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000275">In relation to the need for more mobile clinics, my understanding is that SA Health is currently in the process of putting on the road a fleet of 10 mobile testing clinics. My understanding was that the first assignment for the first of those mobile testing clinics was to Port Adelaide—metropolitan. I'm not going to say to the public health team and the SA Pathology team, who have been so innovative and so successful in the response to coronavirus, 'Wait! Stop! The Labor Party wants you to do it differently.' No, I'm going to continue to trust the expertise of the public health team that has delivered a world-class testing response. That was great—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5413" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. E.S. Bourke</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000276">
          <by role="member" id="5413">The Hon. E.S. Bourke:</by>  You didn't trust them six months ago.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000277">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000278">
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE:</by>  —to see assertive outreach surveillance going into—</text>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000279">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000280">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000281">
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE:</by>  —Port Adelaide—</text>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000282">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000283">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3122" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. I.K. Hunter</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000284">
          <by role="member" id="3122">The Hon. I.K. Hunter:</by>  Why is your Premier misleading the parliament?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <page num="1290" />
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000285">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Order, the Hon Mr Hunter!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000286">
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE:</by>  —going out to—</text>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000287">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="3122">The Hon. I.K. Hunter interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000288">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  The Hon. Mr Hunter!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000289">
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE:</by>  —the community—</text>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000290">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="3122">The Hon. I.K. Hunter interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000291">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  The Hon. Mr Hunter!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000292">
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE:</by>  —not expecting that everyone will come to them.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3122" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. I.K. Hunter</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000293">
          <by role="member" id="3122">The Hon. I.K. Hunter:</by>  Why is your Premier misleading the parliament?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000294">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Minister, sit down for a sec, please.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3122" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. I.K. Hunter</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000295">
          <by role="member" id="3122">The Hon. I.K. Hunter:</by>  Answer the question you were asked.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000296">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  The Hon. Mr Hunter, please, let the minister answer the question.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3122" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. I.K. Hunter</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000297">
          <by role="member" id="3122">The Hon. I.K. Hunter:</by>  He's not answering the question, sir.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000298">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  The Hon. Mr Hunter, I'm speaking and you don't! Enough! The Hon. Ms Pnevmatikos has asked a series of questions. The minister is doing his best to address those questions and he will be heard in silence. The Minister for Health and Wellbeing.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000299">
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE:</by>  Another aspect of the cluster of questions that came at me like a cluster of European wasps—</text>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000300">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000301">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000302">
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE:</by>  —was the issue of why are people needing to wait at clinics. Well, one of the reasons is because we have had a tremendous response from the South Australian community to the request—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3122" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. I.K. Hunter</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000303">
          <by role="member" id="3122">The Hon. I.K. Hunter:</by>  Five hours!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000304">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000305">
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE:</by>  —to get testing.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3122" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. I.K. Hunter</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000306">
          <by role="member" id="3122">The Hon. I.K. Hunter:</by>  Five hours, Stephen.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000307">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Order! Minister, please continue.</text>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000308">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000309">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000310">
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE:</by>  Let me give you some illustrations of that reality. In the last five days—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3122" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. I.K. Hunter</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000311">
          <by role="member" id="3122">The Hon. I.K. Hunter:</by>  Do you think five hours is reasonable?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000312">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000313">
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE:</by>  In the last five days—</text>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000314">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000315">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  The Hon. Mr Hunter, the Hon. Mr Wortley, let's listen to the answer.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3122" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. I.K. Hunter</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000316">
          <by role="member" id="3122">The Hon. I.K. Hunter:</by>  We did, sir. We're not getting an answer.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000317">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  The Hon. Mr Hunter, that wasn't an invitation to have a conversation.</text>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000318">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <page num="1291" />
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000319">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT</by>:  Order! Minister, please continue.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000320">
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE:</by>  The Hon. Irene Pnevmatikos quite rightly asks why do we have line-ups at the clinics. The reason why we have line-ups at the clinics is because we've had a superb response from South Australians to the call, and the call from Nicola Spurrier in particular, to get tested. So out of the last seven days, five of those days have seen more than 2,000 tests—quite extraordinary. In fact, on 17 July, which I think was last Friday, we had 2,374 samples. Congratulations to the people of South Australia: that is a record for this pandemic.</text>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000321">This is very encouraging because we haven't had a case of community transmission in South Australia since March. There is a lot of concern amongst the public health team, as demonstrated by posters on bus shelters, that complacency could undermine people's willingness to go and get tested. So to have a record result last Friday is very encouraging because testing is important to make sure that we are identify a case—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3122" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. I.K. Hunter</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000322">
          <by role="member" id="3122">The Hon. I.K. Hunter:</by>  A record five hours, Stephen.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000323">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000324">
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE:</by>  —to make sure a case does not become—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3122" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. I.K. Hunter</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000325">
          <by role="member" id="3122">The Hon. I.K. Hunter:</by>  How can you be proud of five hours?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000326">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000327">
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE:</by>  —a cluster and a cluster does not become an outbreak. We have seen what can happen. We've seen what's happened in Victoria. We are working night and day to make sure that does not happen in South Australia. We will continue to—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3122" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. I.K. Hunter</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000328">
          <by role="member" id="3122">The Hon. I.K. Hunter:</by>  Make people wait five hours.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000329">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT</by>:  Order! The Hon. Mr Hunter!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000330">
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE:</by>  —build our clinical response to try to reduce the times. But one thing that I can assure the people of South Australia is the latest advice I have is that, in spite of that increase in demand, the turnaround in the test results is still about a day, which is exceptional.</text>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000331">We have reports from other jurisdictions where people are waiting a number of days to get test results. It's really important that SA Pathology continues to achieve what they are achieving, which is very good turnaround times, because as soon as we identify a case that case can be isolated and their close contacts isolated to ensure that we minimise the spread.</text>
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          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="3122">The Hon. I.K. Hunter interjecting:</event>
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        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20200721dfbd5fa1e9a44b43b0000333">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Order!</text>
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