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  <name>Legislative Council</name>
  <date date="2020-06-17" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Fourth Parliament, Second Session (54-2)</sessionName>
  <parliamentNum>54</parliamentNum>
  <sessionNum>2</sessionNum>
  <parliamentName>Parliament of South Australia</parliamentName>
  <house>Legislative Council</house>
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  <dateModified time="2022-08-06T14:30:00+00:00" />
  <proceeding continued="true">
    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Disability Services</name>
      <text id="2020061707437f637a714f7d80000169">
        <heading>Disability Services</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="4697" kind="question">
        <name>The Hon. K.J. MAHER</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Leader of the Opposition</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <questions>
          <question date="2020-06-17">
            <name>Disability Services</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2020-06-17T14:58:38" />
        <text id="2020061707437f637a714f7d80000170">
          <timeStamp time="2020-06-17T14:58:38" />
          <by role="member" id="4697">The Hon. K.J. MAHER (Leader of the Opposition) (14:58):</by>  Further supplementary arising from the original answer: minister, if the facts are as the opposition has been informed and it turns out you have done nothing to inquire further about this, will you resign?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <page num="1049" />
        <text id="2020061707437f637a714f7d80000171">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Minister, sit down. It's a hypothetical question.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Human Services</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <startTime time="2020-06-17T14:59:00" />
        <text id="2020061707437f637a714f7d80000172">
          <timeStamp time="2020-06-17T14:59:00" />
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK (Minister for Human Services) (14:59):</by>  I am happy—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2020061707437f637a714f7d80000173">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  If you would like to answer, the Minister for Human—</text>
        <text id="2020061707437f637a714f7d80000174">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4697">The Hon. K.J. Maher interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2020061707437f637a714f7d80000175">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:  Order!</by>
        </text>
        <text id="2020061707437f637a714f7d80000176">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2020061707437f637a714f7d80000177">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:  Order!</by> In silence. It was a hypothetical question. I would have ruled it out of order; however, if the minister wishes to respond, that is up to you. Minister.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2020061707437f637a714f7d80000178">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  To the extent that I receive these critical incidents, I quite distinctly—</text>
        <text id="2020061707437f637a714f7d80000179">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2020061707437f637a714f7d80000180">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2020061707437f637a714f7d80000181">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  Can I please finish?</text>
        <text id="2020061707437f637a714f7d80000182">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2020061707437f637a714f7d80000183">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2020061707437f637a714f7d80000184">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  Can I please finish?</text>
        <text id="2020061707437f637a714f7d80000185">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2020061707437f637a714f7d80000186">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2020061707437f637a714f7d80000187">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  Mr President, I would love to answer this.</text>
        <text id="2020061707437f637a714f7d80000188">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2020061707437f637a714f7d80000189">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2020061707437f637a714f7d80000190">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  Leading with a glass jaw, I demanded—I insisted—being on this list. When I was a new minister in this government—</text>
        <text id="2020061707437f637a714f7d80000191">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4697">The Hon. K.J. Maher interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2020061707437f637a714f7d80000192">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:  Order!</by>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2020061707437f637a714f7d80000193">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  —I said to my CE that I wanted to be on the list. Now this stands in stark contrast—</text>
        <text id="2020061707437f637a714f7d80000194">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4697">The Hon. K.J. Maher interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2020061707437f637a714f7d80000195">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:  Order!</by>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2020061707437f637a714f7d80000196">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  —to Jay Weatherill, who let his chief of staff take a fall when he knew, when his chief of staff knew, that a child had been raped at a western suburbs school and nobody told him.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4697" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. K.J. Maher</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2020061707437f637a714f7d80000197">
          <by role="member" id="4697">The Hon. K.J. Maher:</by>  What is the point of being on a list—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2020061707437f637a714f7d80000198">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2020061707437f637a714f7d80000199">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  You Labor Party people should hang your heads in shame.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4697" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. K.J. Maher</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2020061707437f637a714f7d80000200">
          <by role="member" id="4697">The Hon. K.J. Maher:</by>  —if you are just going to ignore it and not ask a question.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2020061707437f637a714f7d80000201">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2020061707437f637a714f7d80000202">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  I demanded of my chief executive that I be on the list—</text>
        <text id="2020061707437f637a714f7d80000203">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4697">The Hon. K.J. Maher interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <page num="1050" />
        <text id="2020061707437f637a714f7d80000204">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Order, the honourable Leader of the Opposition!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2020061707437f637a714f7d80000205">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  —so that I can receive these reports.</text>
        <text id="2020061707437f637a714f7d80000206">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2020061707437f637a714f7d80000207">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2020061707437f637a714f7d80000208">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  Do I have 100 per cent recall of every incident that comes into my office? No, not necessarily.</text>
        <text id="2020061707437f637a714f7d80000209">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2020061707437f637a714f7d80000210">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Order! Minister—</text>
        <text id="2020061707437f637a714f7d80000211">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2020061707437f637a714f7d80000212">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  I demand to know—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2020061707437f637a714f7d80000213">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Minister—</text>
        <text id="2020061707437f637a714f7d80000214">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2020061707437f637a714f7d80000215">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  —because I believe in ministerial accountability.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2020061707437f637a714f7d80000216">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Minister, sit down.</text>
        <text id="2020061707437f637a714f7d80000217">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2020061707437f637a714f7d80000218">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Order! You asked a question; it's being answered. We will listen in silence. I won't keep repeating myself. When I call for order, I expect it. Have you finished your answer?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2020061707437f637a714f7d80000219">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  I think so, Mr President.</text>
      </talker>
    </subject>
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