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  <name>Legislative Council</name>
  <date date="2020-06-03" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Fourth Parliament, Second Session (54-2)</sessionName>
  <parliamentNum>54</parliamentNum>
  <sessionNum>2</sessionNum>
  <parliamentName>Parliament of South Australia</parliamentName>
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  <dateModified time="2022-08-06T14:30:00+00:00" />
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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Safeguarding Taskforce</name>
      <text id="202006032f5f42a1435f43aa80000077">
        <heading>Safeguarding Taskforce</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="4697" kind="question">
        <name>The Hon. K.J. MAHER</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Leader of the Opposition</name>
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        <questions>
          <question date="2020-06-03">
            <name>Safeguarding Taskforce</name>
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        <startTime time="2020-06-03T14:28:06" />
        <text id="202006032f5f42a1435f43aa80000078">
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          <by role="member" id="4697">The Hon. K.J. MAHER (Leader of the Opposition) (14:28):</by>  Supplementary arising from the original answer: how does the minister in any way reconcile what she is telling the chamber today with what she said yesterday, stating, 'I am not seeking to limit them in any way.' Which day was she telling the truth to this chamber?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Human Services</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <questions>
          <question date="2020-06-03">
            <name>Safeguarding Taskforce</name>
          </question>
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        <startTime time="2020-06-03T14:28:25" />
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        <text id="202006032f5f42a1435f43aa80000079">
          <timeStamp time="2020-06-03T14:28:25" />
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK (Minister for Human Services) (14:28):</by>  Both, because the reference that I was making was in relation to the terms of reference which has seemed to excite a lot of members of the Labor Party, as well as the media. It is the strangest response to anything I have seen in a while in that there is—</text>
        <text id="202006032f5f42a1435f43aa80000080">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202006032f5f42a1435f43aa80000081">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202006032f5f42a1435f43aa80000082">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  Yes, absolutely.</text>
        <text id="202006032f5f42a1435f43aa80000083">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202006032f5f42a1435f43aa80000084">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT</by>:  Order! The Hon. Ms Bourke!</text>
        <text id="202006032f5f42a1435f43aa80000085">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202006032f5f42a1435f43aa80000086">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  The honourable Leader of the Opposition!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202006032f5f42a1435f43aa80000087">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  There have been a lot of inaccuracies in the reporting of this case and that, I think, is very disappointing because—</text>
        <text id="202006032f5f42a1435f43aa80000088">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202006032f5f42a1435f43aa80000089">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202006032f5f42a1435f43aa80000090">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  —we need to get to the facts. The facts of the matter are that the task force was given a brief within days after it having—</text>
        <text id="202006032f5f42a1435f43aa80000091">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4697">The Hon. K.J. Maher interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202006032f5f42a1435f43aa80000092">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  The Hon. Leader of the Opposition!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202006032f5f42a1435f43aa80000093">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  —been announced. That brief was to look at the gaps in safeguarding. Initial terms of reference were drafted and provided to the task force and they will be published this afternoon. There's nothing mysterious about this whole process.</text>
        <text id="202006032f5f42a1435f43aa80000094">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5413">The Hon. E.S. Bourke interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202006032f5f42a1435f43aa80000095">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:  Order!</by>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202006032f5f42a1435f43aa80000096">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  It's just—</text>
        <text id="202006032f5f42a1435f43aa80000097">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5413">The Hon. E.S. Bourke interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202006032f5f42a1435f43aa80000098">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Order! The Hon. Ms Bourke!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="202006032f5f42a1435f43aa80000099">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  Might I add that what has been the response of the opposition, apart from lots of hubris, is to propose a judicial review, which was a device that they used all the time when they were in government. I thought it was a bit of a glass-jaw moment when the Leader of the Opposition referred to it, because it was a device that the Labor Party used to kick the issue down the road and hope that by the time the royal commission or judicial task force, or whatever situation it was, would be years, years down the track, and they would have hoped that by that stage South Australians would have forgotten about the tragedy.</text>
        <text id="202006032f5f42a1435f43aa80000100">In contrast, our response has been that we have established this task force very rapidly in response to the outpouring from people in the disability community, be they with lived experience, be they families, be they some incredibly conscientious and hardworking people in the field who are as distressed as everybody about how this could have happened. They are able, with their deep level of understanding of these issues, to quickly identify gaps in the system. I look forward to receiving their recommendations.</text>
      </talker>
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