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  <name>Legislative Council</name>
  <date date="2019-09-24" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Fourth Parliament, First Session (54-1)</sessionName>
  <parliamentNum>54</parliamentNum>
  <sessionNum>1</sessionNum>
  <parliamentName>Parliament of South Australia</parliamentName>
  <house>Legislative Council</house>
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  <dateModified time="2022-08-06T14:30:00+00:00" />
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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Land Tax</name>
      <text id="2019092495dba1ec8a2d4ddbb0000128">
        <heading>Land Tax</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="5413" kind="question">
        <name>The Hon. E.S. BOURKE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <questions>
          <question date="2019-09-24">
            <name>Land Tax</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2019-09-24T14:44:17" />
        <text id="2019092495dba1ec8a2d4ddbb0000129">
          <timeStamp time="2019-09-24T14:44:17" />
          <by role="member" id="5413">The Hon. E.S. BOURKE (14:44):</by>  Supplementary, Mr President—</text>
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          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2019092495dba1ec8a2d4ddbb0000131">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  It's going to be very hard, but I am happy to hear it.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5413" kind="question" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. E.S. BOURKE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2019092495dba1ec8a2d4ddbb0000132">
          <by role="member" id="5413">The Hon. E.S. BOURKE:</by>  Considering the Treasurer's support for locking the media out of the forum, was it the advice of the Treasurer or his staff to lock them out of the forum?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2019092495dba1ec8a2d4ddbb0000133">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  It's close. I am going to allow it, actually.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="605" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. R.I. LUCAS</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <startTime time="2019-09-24T14:44:44" />
        <page num="4419" />
        <text id="2019092495dba1ec8a2d4ddbb0000134">
          <timeStamp time="2019-09-24T14:44:44" />
          <by role="member" id="605">The Hon. R.I. LUCAS (Treasurer) (14:44):</by>  The member for Adelaide was conducting her own land tax forum. It's entirely her prerogative whom she wishes to invite or not. I certainly support the view that this was intended to be for her constituents, although in the end I think—and I am not sure of the exact number—a majority, probably close to three-quarters, were not her constituents. They were people who had been organised to come to the particular forum that—</text>
        <text id="2019092495dba1ec8a2d4ddbb0000135">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="605" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. R.I. LUCAS</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2019092495dba1ec8a2d4ddbb0000136">
          <by role="member" id="605">The Hon. R.I. LUCAS:</by>  No, by opponents of the legislation.</text>
        <text id="2019092495dba1ec8a2d4ddbb0000137">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="605" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. R.I. LUCAS</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2019092495dba1ec8a2d4ddbb0000138">
          <by role="member" id="605">The Hon. R.I. LUCAS:</by>  The Property Council.</text>
        <text id="2019092495dba1ec8a2d4ddbb0000139">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="605" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. R.I. LUCAS</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2019092495dba1ec8a2d4ddbb0000140">
          <by role="member" id="605">The Hon. R.I. LUCAS:</by>  Yes. I don't have a problem of naming names—the Property Council.</text>
        <text id="2019092495dba1ec8a2d4ddbb0000141">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="605" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. R.I. LUCAS</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2019092495dba1ec8a2d4ddbb0000142">
          <by role="member" id="605">The Hon. R.I. LUCAS:</by>  Could I finish? Thank you.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2019092495dba1ec8a2d4ddbb0000143">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Just remember the Treasurer's first answer was yes, so you can't ask a question on what the Treasurer is saying now.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="605" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. R.I. LUCAS</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2019092495dba1ec8a2d4ddbb0000144">
          <by role="member" id="605">The Hon. R.I. LUCAS:</by>  In relation to whether I support it, I do support the member's prerogative, the member for Adelaide's prerogative, as a local member to choose the people she wishes to go. I think it's fair, and I certainly support the view that, given other members of the media, for example, were not invited to attend, any individual member of the media shouldn't have been allowed to attend either. I do note we were quite happy to let—sorry, we weren't. The member for Adelaide was quite happy to let a serial Labor candidate, Ms Chapley, into the meeting as a constituent.</text>
        <text id="2019092495dba1ec8a2d4ddbb0000145">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="605" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. R.I. LUCAS</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2019092495dba1ec8a2d4ddbb0000146">
          <by role="member" id="605">The Hon. R.I. LUCAS:</by>  I just said, as a resident, just highlighting the fact that a Labor Party candidate was entitled to attend, and she was allowed to attend. Some members of the media who sought to attend were not even local residents or constituents.</text>
        <text id="2019092495dba1ec8a2d4ddbb0000147">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5413">The Hon. E.S. Bourke interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2019092495dba1ec8a2d4ddbb0000148">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Don't push it. That would be pushing your luck, the Hon. Ms Bourke. The Hon. Mr Stephens, what are you doing?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1819">
        <name>The Hon. T.J. STEPHENS</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2019092495dba1ec8a2d4ddbb0000149">
          <by role="member" id="1819">The Hon. T.J. STEPHENS:</by>  Can I ask a question?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2019092495dba1ec8a2d4ddbb0000150">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  I haven't given you the call yet.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1819">
        <name>The Hon. T.J. STEPHENS</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2019092495dba1ec8a2d4ddbb0000151">
          <by role="member" id="1819">The Hon. T.J. STEPHENS:</by>  I haven't spoken. I am on my feet, looking for the call.</text>
        <text id="2019092495dba1ec8a2d4ddbb0000152">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2019092495dba1ec8a2d4ddbb0000153">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  We're ready to go. I just wanted to know whether you were asking a supplementary or going for a question.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1819">
        <name>The Hon. T.J. STEPHENS</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2019092495dba1ec8a2d4ddbb0000154">
          <by role="member" id="1819">The Hon. T.J. STEPHENS:</by>  I jumped to my feet to try to get the call.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2019092495dba1ec8a2d4ddbb0000155">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  The Hon. Mr Stephens, please ask your question.</text>
      </talker>
    </subject>
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