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  <name>Legislative Council</name>
  <date date="2019-09-10" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Fourth Parliament, First Session (54-1)</sessionName>
  <parliamentNum>54</parliamentNum>
  <sessionNum>1</sessionNum>
  <parliamentName>Parliament of South Australia</parliamentName>
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  <dateModified time="2022-08-06T14:30:00+00:00" />
  <proceeding continued="true">
    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Land Tax</name>
      <text id="20190910aa7ed304380c4866b0000160">
        <heading>Land Tax</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="5413" kind="question">
        <name>The Hon. E.S. BOURKE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <questions>
          <question date="2019-09-10">
            <name>Land Tax</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2019-09-10T14:43:43" />
        <text id="20190910aa7ed304380c4866b0000161">
          <timeStamp time="2019-09-10T14:43:43" />
          <by role="member" id="5413">The Hon. E.S. BOURKE (14:43):</by>  My question is to the Treasurer. In relation to your land tax aggregation proposal, how does the government define 'mum-and-dad investors', and how many mum-and-dad investors are there, according to the government?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="605" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. R.I. LUCAS</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <questions>
          <question date="2019-09-10">
            <name>Land Tax</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2019-09-10T14:44:00" />
        <text id="20190910aa7ed304380c4866b0000162">
          <timeStamp time="2019-09-10T14:44:00" />
          <by role="member" id="605">The Hon. R.I. LUCAS (Treasurer) (14:44):</by>  I have used the term in the same fashion as the Property Council and some of the opponents have used. We have referred to it in the context of individuals. There are three ownership structures generally referred to: one is natural persons or individuals; the second one is companies; and the third one is trusts. I suspect the Property Council and others, when they have referred to mum-and-dad investors, have been sometimes referring to not only individuals—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4697" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. K.J. Maher</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <page num="4273" />
        <text id="20190910aa7ed304380c4866b0000163">
          <by role="member" id="4697">The Hon. K.J. Maher:</by>  You said it nine times—what do you mean?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="605" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. R.I. LUCAS</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20190910aa7ed304380c4866b0000164">
          <by role="member" id="605">The Hon. R.I. LUCAS:</by>  I just said: individuals—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4697" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. K.J. Maher</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20190910aa7ed304380c4866b0000165">
          <by role="member" id="4697">The Hon. K.J. Maher:</by>  No, you're saying what the Property Council says; what do you mean?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="605" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. R.I. LUCAS</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20190910aa7ed304380c4866b0000166">
          <by role="member" id="605">The Hon. R.I. LUCAS:</by>  I'm just saying the same thing: individuals or natural persons.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4697" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. K.J. Maher</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20190910aa7ed304380c4866b0000167">
          <by role="member" id="4697">The Hon. K.J. Maher:</by>  So any natural person is a mum-and-dad investor, according to you.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20190910aa7ed304380c4866b0000168">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Leader of the Opposition!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="605" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. R.I. LUCAS</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20190910aa7ed304380c4866b0000169">
          <by role="member" id="605">The Hon. R.I. LUCAS:</by>  Is this an interrogation?</text>
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          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20190910aa7ed304380c4866b0000171">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Leader of the Opposition, we have gone through this. A supplementary when seated is not within the standing orders. Treasurer, responses to questions without the call are also not approved under the standing orders. The Hon. Ms Bourke.</text>
      </talker>
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