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  <name>Legislative Council</name>
  <date date="2019-06-05" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Fourth Parliament, First Session (54-1)</sessionName>
  <parliamentNum>54</parliamentNum>
  <sessionNum>1</sessionNum>
  <parliamentName>Parliament of South Australia</parliamentName>
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  <dateModified time="2022-08-06T14:30:00+00:00" />
  <proceeding continued="true">
    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Mental Health Services</name>
      <text id="20190605b75d7149d7864b1eb0000168">
        <heading>Mental Health Services</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="5413" kind="question">
        <name>The Hon. E.S. BOURKE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <questions>
          <question date="2019-06-05">
            <name>Mental Health Services</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2019-06-05T14:47:40" />
        <text id="20190605b75d7149d7864b1eb0000169">
          <timeStamp time="2019-06-05T14:47:40" />
          <by role="member" id="5413">The Hon. E.S. BOURKE (14:47):</by>  Further supplementary: the minister highlighted that it would have no impact on the emergency department, but is it not the role of a mental health service to keep people out of the emergency department? If you are cutting 25 per cent from their funding, how will it not have any impact on the emergency department?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Health and Wellbeing</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <questions>
          <question date="2019-06-05">
            <name>Mental Health Services</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2019-06-05T14:48:05" />
        <text id="20190605b75d7149d7864b1eb0000170">
          <timeStamp time="2019-06-05T14:48:05" />
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE (Minister for Health and Wellbeing) (14:48):</by>  I need to do this slowly because obviously—there would only be an impact on emergency departments through this transfer of funding from state government—</text>
        <text id="20190605b75d7149d7864b1eb0000171">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4697">The Hon. K.J. Maher interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20190605b75d7149d7864b1eb0000172">
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE:</by>  Mr President, I am just wondering whether that's the next question or whether I should answer that one first.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20190605b75d7149d7864b1eb0000173">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  I would prefer that you didn't respond to the Leader of the Opposition's commentary and showed courtesy to the Hon. Ms Bourke. Just answer the question.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20190605b75d7149d7864b1eb0000174">
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE:</by>  Okay, slowly for the Hon. Ms Bourke. We currently have state-funded mental health programs, which are providing psychosocial support to a number of South Australians. As they become eligible for NDIS funding, it was always the intention of your government's NDIS plan that the funding would transfer—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5412">
        <name>The Hon. C.M. SCRIVEN</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <page num="3550" />
        <text id="20190605b75d7149d7864b1eb0000175">
          <by role="member" id="5412">The Hon. C.M. SCRIVEN:</by>  Point of order, Mr President: I wasn't aware that you, as the President, were a government with an NDIS plan.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20190605b75d7149d7864b1eb0000176">
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE:</by>  I take the point, Mr President. I certainly should be directing my answer through you, and I will do so. I think the point I would like to make to you, Mr President, is that the Hon. Ms Bourke needs to understand that state government-funded psychosocial services provide services to both people who are NDIS eligible and those who are not.</text>
        <text id="20190605b75d7149d7864b1eb0000177">As clients transfer from state government-funded programs to NDIS programs—the funding was always intended to transfer. As the clients transfer from state government-funded programs to the federal NDIS programs, their funding will follow them. We are working to ensure that the transition is smooth and that the commitments of—</text>
        <text id="20190605b75d7149d7864b1eb0000178">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20190605b75d7149d7864b1eb0000179">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  The Hon. Ms Bourke—please don't have a conversation with the minister, the Hon. Ms Lensink—the minister is attempting to answer your—</text>
        <text id="20190605b75d7149d7864b1eb0000180">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20190605b75d7149d7864b1eb0000181">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  The Hon. Ms Bourke, the minister is attempting—</text>
        <text id="20190605b75d7149d7864b1eb0000182">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20190605b75d7149d7864b1eb0000183">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT</by>:  Order! The Hon. Ms Lensink, you are not assisting me either. The Hon. Ms Bourke, please listen to the answer.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20190605b75d7149d7864b1eb0000184">
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE:</by>  The commitment of both the state and the federal governments in the NDIS agreement is to continuity of support. We will strive to achieve that. As we achieve that, people will continue to get the mental health services that they are currently receiving, possibly in a different form but still the commitment is to continuity of support.</text>
        <text id="20190605b75d7149d7864b1eb0000185">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20190605b75d7149d7864b1eb0000186">
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE:</by>  The honourable member—not the Leader of the Opposition; I am referring to the Hon. Ms Bourke—interjects about cutting funding. The rant continues.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4697">
        <name>The Hon. K.J. MAHER</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20190605b75d7149d7864b1eb0000187">
          <by role="member" id="4697">The Hon. K.J. MAHER:</by>  Point of order, Mr President: the member is defying your rulings by referring to interjections time and time again—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20190605b75d7149d7864b1eb0000188">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  He hasn't—no, he is just—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4697">
        <name>The Hon. K.J. MAHER</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20190605b75d7149d7864b1eb0000189">
          <by role="member" id="4697">The Hon. K.J. MAHER:</by>  —and such disrespectful behaviour really ought not be tolerated, Mr President.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20190605b75d7149d7864b1eb0000190">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Leader of the Opposition, you press the point too hard. Minister, please—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4697">
        <name>The Hon. K.J. MAHER</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20190605b75d7149d7864b1eb0000191">
          <by role="member" id="4697">The Hon. K.J. MAHER:</by>  What is your ruling on that?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20190605b75d7149d7864b1eb0000192">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  The minister was incorporating the interjection and seeking to respond to it. The minister is entitled to do that but I prefer that he doesn't and addresses the question directly.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20190605b75d7149d7864b1eb0000193">
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE:</by>  Thank you, Mr President. As we work to ensure continuity of support, our clients should still be continuing to receive the care that they need and it is therefore my hope and aspiration that there will be no impact on emergency departments.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20190605b75d7149d7864b1eb0000194">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  The Hon. Mr Hanson, a supplementary?</text>
        <text id="20190605b75d7149d7864b1eb0000195">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20190605b75d7149d7864b1eb0000196">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Just wait there, the Hon. Mr Hanson, until your front bench behaves.</text>
        <text id="20190605b75d7149d7864b1eb0000197">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20190605b75d7149d7864b1eb0000198">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Now you may proceed, the Hon. Mr Hanson, with your supplementary, I assume.</text>
      </talker>
    </subject>
  </proceeding>
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