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  <name>Legislative Council</name>
  <date date="2019-02-26" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Fourth Parliament, First Session (54-1)</sessionName>
  <parliamentNum>54</parliamentNum>
  <sessionNum>1</sessionNum>
  <parliamentName>Parliament of South Australia</parliamentName>
  <house>Legislative Council</house>
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  <dateModified time="2022-08-06T14:30:00+00:00" />
  <proceeding continued="true">
    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Ambulance Ramping</name>
      <text id="20190226713f57d20f1843ec80000227">
        <heading>Ambulance Ramping</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="5412" kind="question">
        <name>The Hon. C.M. SCRIVEN</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <questions>
          <question date="2019-02-26">
            <name>Ambulance Ramping</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2019-02-26T15:08:46" />
        <text id="20190226713f57d20f1843ec80000228">
          <timeStamp time="2019-02-26T15:08:46" />
          <by role="member" id="5412">The Hon. C.M. SCRIVEN (15:08):</by>  A further supplementary: what action is in that letter, if he wrote to them today?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Health and Wellbeing</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <questions>
          <question date="2019-02-26">
            <name>Ambulance Ramping</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2019-02-26T15:08:42" />
        <text id="20190226713f57d20f1843ec80000229">
          <timeStamp time="2019-02-26T15:08:42" />
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE (Minister for Health and Wellbeing) (15:08):</by>  I seek your guidance, Mr President. I could read it all out.</text>
        <text id="20190226713f57d20f1843ec80000230">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20190226713f57d20f1843ec80000231">
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE:</by>  It would be tempting; very tempting.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20190226713f57d20f1843ec80000232">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  I'm in your hands, minister. If you wish to table it you are entitled to seek leave to table the document.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <page num="2711" />
        <text id="20190226713f57d20f1843ec80000233">
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE:</by>  I make the point—</text>
        <text id="20190226713f57d20f1843ec80000234">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20190226713f57d20f1843ec80000235">
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE:</by>  Don't worry, I don't think the ANMF is not going to provide it to their friends in the Labor Party. Let's just make the point that the Marshall Liberal government has called out ramping as completely unacceptable. I appreciate the reference in the letter from the health organisations to the former Labor government.</text>
        <text id="20190226713f57d20f1843ec80000236">The fact of the matter is that it was the former Labor government that brought ramping to South Australia. They allowed it to fester and develop into the norm for our hospitals, and on coming to government we committed to stamping it out and calling it out as completely unacceptable.</text>
        <text id="20190226713f57d20f1843ec80000237">Now that the member has invited me to reflect, let's think about the culture of the former Labor government when it came to ramping. Ramping is not part of the normal running of a world-class health system, but it is a symptom of a system deformed by Labor's Transforming Health experiment and 16 years of Labor mismanagement. So let me tell you what one former Labor health minister said about ramping. He fundamentally—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4697">
        <name>The Hon. K.J. MAHER</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20190226713f57d20f1843ec80000238">
          <by role="member" id="4697">The Hon. K.J. MAHER:</by>  Point of order, Mr President.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20190226713f57d20f1843ec80000239">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Just wait, minister. Point of order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4697">
        <name>The Hon. K.J. MAHER</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20190226713f57d20f1843ec80000240">
          <by role="member" id="4697">The Hon. K.J. MAHER:</by>  We in the opposition have heeded your request to make sure answers to supplementaries in some way relate to the question that was asked, and I seek your guidance about whether answers to supplementaries similarly have to be—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20190226713f57d20f1843ec80000241">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Minister, thank you for the point of order.</text>
        <text id="20190226713f57d20f1843ec80000242">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20190226713f57d20f1843ec80000243">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Order! I am making a ruling on a point of order. Can the government benchers calm down.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1819" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. T.J. Stephens</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20190226713f57d20f1843ec80000244">
          <by role="member" id="1819">The Hon. T.J. Stephens:</by>  I am very excited.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20190226713f57d20f1843ec80000245">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Thank you, the Hon. Mr Stephens, but I don't need to hear how excited you are. I am not upholding the point of order. The minister has some leeway. I was very generous with the supplementary, which was actually probably regarding an answer midway through, so in my generosity to the government benchers I am going to give the minister some leeway to reflect and answer.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20190226713f57d20f1843ec80000246">
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE:</by>  So the letter acknowledged the state of affairs inherited by this government, and one of the reasons was because Labor didn't care about ramping. Let me refer to a former Labor health minister who brushed off ramping as basically a fight between ambulance and emergency department staff, and said that ambulances in photos showing ramping were often empty. Labor won't acknowledge the demolition job they did on South Australia's public health system. They broke their promise to never, ever close the Repat, they broke their promise twice to upgrade The QEH, they broke their promise to the eye hospital at Modbury. This government is going to deliver on its commitment to the people of South Australia to eliminate ramping.</text>
      </talker>
    </subject>
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