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  <name>Legislative Council</name>
  <date date="2018-09-19" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Fourth Parliament, First Session (54-1)</sessionName>
  <parliamentNum>54</parliamentNum>
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  <parliamentName>Parliament of South Australia</parliamentName>
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  <dateModified time="2022-08-06T14:30:00+00:00" />
  <proceeding continued="true">
    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Housing Trust Rent</name>
      <text id="2018091958a3ca1f66404065a0000214">
        <heading>Housing Trust Rent</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="4697" kind="question">
        <name>The Hon. K.J. MAHER</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Leader of the Opposition</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <questions>
          <question date="2018-09-19">
            <name>Housing Trust Rent</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2018-09-19T14:52:17" />
        <text id="2018091958a3ca1f66404065a0000215">
          <timeStamp time="2018-09-19T14:52:17" />
          <by role="member" id="4697">The Hon. K.J. MAHER (Leader of the Opposition) (14:52):</by>  Supplementary question: now that the minister has finally conceded that her—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2018091958a3ca1f66404065a0000216">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Stop the inflection. It's a simple, crisp question since you are on a short leash today, the Leader of the Opposition.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1819" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. T.J. Stephens</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2018091958a3ca1f66404065a0000217">
          <by role="member" id="1819">The Hon. T.J. Stephens:</by>  Very short leash.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4697" kind="question" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. K.J. MAHER</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2018091958a3ca1f66404065a0000218">
          <by role="member" id="4697">The Hon. K.J. MAHER:</by>  Some of the most vulnerable in our community—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2018091958a3ca1f66404065a0000219">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  The Hon. Mr Stephens, I don't need you adding into this conversation.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4697" kind="question" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. K.J. MAHER</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2018091958a3ca1f66404065a0000220">
          <by role="member" id="4697">The Hon. K.J. MAHER:</by>  —will have significantly raised rents. Will the minister now concede and own her decision to increase these rents for some of the most vulnerable in the community—yes or no?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Human Services</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <startTime time="2018-09-19T14:52:44" />
        <text id="2018091958a3ca1f66404065a0000221">
          <timeStamp time="2018-09-19T14:52:44" />
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK (Minister for Human Services) (14:52):</by>  I remind the Leader of the Opposition that the most vulnerable people are not people living—</text>
        <text id="2018091958a3ca1f66404065a0000222">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4697">The Hon. K.J. Maher interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2018091958a3ca1f66404065a0000223">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Leader of the Opposition, you have asked your question. I would like to hear, as would everyone else in this chamber, the minister's response. Ask your question and listen to the answer in silence.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2018091958a3ca1f66404065a0000224">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  The most vulnerable people are not living in public housing in that sense, in the financial sense.</text>
        <text id="2018091958a3ca1f66404065a0000225">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2018091958a3ca1f66404065a0000226">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  They are people who are sleeping rough and living in cars, and there is an additional cohort who need to be considered who are Centrelink recipients who are in rental stress in the private sector.</text>
        <text id="2018091958a3ca1f66404065a0000227">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2018091958a3ca1f66404065a0000228">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Minister, go on.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2018091958a3ca1f66404065a0000229">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  So people who are living in our public housing—</text>
        <page num="1384" />
        <text id="2018091958a3ca1f66404065a0000230">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2018091958a3ca1f66404065a0000231">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  They're not interested in your answer.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2018091958a3ca1f66404065a0000232">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  We provide public housing for the most vulnerable—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4697" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. K.J. Maher</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2018091958a3ca1f66404065a0000233">
          <by role="member" id="4697">The Hon. K.J. Maher:</by>  Oh, you do now?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2018091958a3ca1f66404065a0000234">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  —but we don't have enough room for them all and that is because of the situation that the Labor Party has left us in. We want to be able to provide more housing for more people—</text>
        <text id="2018091958a3ca1f66404065a0000235">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2018091958a3ca1f66404065a0000236">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2018091958a3ca1f66404065a0000237">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  —and the Labor Party shamelessly sold all of those properties without any consideration for people who can't get into the system and who are residing in places like Catherine House, and other people can't get in, in a whole range of homelessness services because we can't get them into public housing. That is the legacy that the Labor Party have left us: people living on the street in unsafe situations, who can't get into public housing because of the mess that the Labor Party has left our public housing system in.</text>
      </talker>
    </subject>
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