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  <name>Legislative Council</name>
  <date date="2018-09-19" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Fourth Parliament, First Session (54-1)</sessionName>
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  <parliamentName>Parliament of South Australia</parliamentName>
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  <proceeding continued="true">
    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Housing Trust Rent</name>
      <text id="20180919a6c8feb00255462580000175">
        <heading>Housing Trust Rent</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="5244" kind="question">
        <name>The Hon. J.E. HANSON</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <questions>
          <question date="2018-09-19">
            <name>Housing Trust Rent</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2018-09-19T14:47:20" />
        <text id="20180919a6c8feb00255462580000176">
          <timeStamp time="2018-09-19T14:47:20" />
          <by role="member" id="5244">The Hon. J.E. HANSON (14:47):</by>  Supplementary, Mr President.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1819" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. T.J. Stephens</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20180919a6c8feb00255462580000177">
          <by role="member" id="1819">The Hon. T.J. Stephens:</by>  Shut him down, you will get the call up. Everybody else has had the call. You are a very naughty boy.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20180919a6c8feb00255462580000178">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  The Hon. Mr Stephens, you are not helping. Your commentary is descending to the same level as the Leader of the Opposition. You are now on the government benches. A higher standard of behaviour is expected. The Hon. Mr Hanson.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5244" kind="question" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.E. HANSON</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20180919a6c8feb00255462580000179">
          <by role="member" id="5244">The Hon. J.E. HANSON:</by>  The Hon. Mr Ridgway is not here, otherwise he would be telling him to chuck him out.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20180919a6c8feb00255462580000180">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Do not reflect on a member who is not in the chamber, the Hon. Mr Hanson.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5244" kind="question" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.E. HANSON</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <page num="1382" />
        <text id="20180919a6c8feb00255462580000181">
          <by role="member" id="5244">The Hon. J.E. HANSON:</by>  Supplementary, Mr President, if I can get back to business. Given that the minister has admitted that the $10 increase to some of the most vulnerable members of our community in regard to their rents was not actually mentioned in any Liberal Party documents in the lead-up to the March election, can she also confirm that no economic analysis has been done by the Liberal Party in how this will affect those most vulnerable in our community?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Human Services</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <startTime time="2018-09-19T14:48:17" />
        <text id="20180919a6c8feb00255462580000182">
          <timeStamp time="2018-09-19T14:48:17" />
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK (Minister for Human Services) (14:48):</by>  Part of the honourable member's supplementary is incorrect because it is not $10—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4697" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. K.J. Maher</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20180919a6c8feb00255462580000183">
          <by role="member" id="4697">The Hon. K.J. Maher:</by>  What is it? Go on, what is it?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20180919a6c8feb00255462580000184">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  Alright, I can run through these for you.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4697" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. K.J. Maher</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20180919a6c8feb00255462580000185">
          <by role="member" id="4697">The Hon. K.J. Maher:</by>  It's up to $50 a week, is it?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20180919a6c8feb00255462580000186">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  No, it's not—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20180919a6c8feb00255462580000187">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Leader of the Opposition, allow the minister to answer the Hon. Mr Hanson's question.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20180919a6c8feb00255462580000188">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  It would be good if the honourable members opposite would actually read the budget papers.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20180919a6c8feb00255462580000189">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Minister, don't descend to their level, just answer the question.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20180919a6c8feb00255462580000190">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  I am sorry, Mr President, but I do need to explain this. Where the $50 a week comes from is a separate policy where people who are on modest incomes are going to be asked in future to pay—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4697" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. K.J. Maher</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20180919a6c8feb00255462580000191">
          <by role="member" id="4697">The Hon. K.J. Maher:</by>  That's a different rent increase, is it?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20180919a6c8feb00255462580000192">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  Correct—to pay additional rent. So 25 per cent to 30 per cent in consultation with the South Australian Council of Social Services, etc.</text>
        <text id="20180919a6c8feb00255462580000193">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20180919a6c8feb00255462580000194">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  This is question time, not a conversation.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20180919a6c8feb00255462580000195">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  Sorry, Mr President, was I talking over you?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20180919a6c8feb00255462580000196">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  No, I can't hear. Start again, minister, because I didn't hear that.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20180919a6c8feb00255462580000197">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  That is a separate policy decision. There have been issues raised. There was a story, I think in April or May this year, where the matter of people who—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5244">
        <name>The Hon. J.E. HANSON</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20180919a6c8feb00255462580000198">
          <by role="member" id="5244">The Hon. J.E. HANSON:</by>  Point of order, Mr President: what I asked was in relation to economic analysis. Whether or not the start of my question was factually correct or not is actually irrelevant to the eventual question.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20180919a6c8feb00255462580000199">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  I take the point of order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5244">
        <name>The Hon. J.E. HANSON</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20180919a6c8feb00255462580000200">
          <by role="member" id="5244">The Hon. J.E. HANSON:</by>  The eventual question goes to economic analysis.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20180919a6c8feb00255462580000201">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  The minister has some latitude and I'm allowing the minister to get to the point. Minister.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20180919a6c8feb00255462580000202">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  I wish the members opposite would work out which of them I should respond to first, because I was—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20180919a6c8feb00255462580000203">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  I would prefer if you responded to the supplementary by the Hon. Mr Hanson.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20180919a6c8feb00255462580000204">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  To the supplementary.</text>
        <text id="20180919a6c8feb00255462580000205">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4697">The Hon. K.J. Maher interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20180919a6c8feb00255462580000206">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Leader of the Opposition, say that on the footsteps of parliament. I don't need to listen to it.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <page num="1383" />
        <text id="20180919a6c8feb00255462580000207">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  As to the question of the impact on people who are on low incomes, there are many people, and the lowest-paid, of course, are Newstart recipients who will be asked to pay $67 per week for their properties. There are a number of people, my figures say approximately 4,000 Newstart recipients, who are in other types of dwellings who have been paying 25 per cent for many, many years.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20180919a6c8feb00255462580000208">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  The Hon. Mr Hanson.</text>
      </talker>
    </subject>
  </proceeding>
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