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  <name>Legislative Council</name>
  <date date="2018-09-18" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Fourth Parliament, First Session (54-1)</sessionName>
  <parliamentNum>54</parliamentNum>
  <sessionNum>1</sessionNum>
  <parliamentName>Parliament of South Australia</parliamentName>
  <house>Legislative Council</house>
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  <dateModified time="2022-08-06T14:30:00+00:00" />
  <proceeding continued="true">
    <name>Answers to Questions</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Government Land</name>
      <text id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000805">
        <inserted>
          <heading>Government Land</heading>
        </inserted>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="3404" kind="question">
        <name>The Hon. J.A. DARLEY</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <questions>
          <question date="2018-09-18">
            <name>Government Land</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <text id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000806">
          <inserted>In reply to <by role="member" id="3404">the Hon. J.A. DARLEY </by>(17 May 2018).  </inserted>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="605" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. R.I. LUCAS</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <electorate id="">Treasurer</electorate>
        <questions>
          <question date="2018-09-18">
            <name>Government Land</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <text id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000807">
          <inserted>
            <by role="member" id="605">The Hon. R.I. LUCAS (Treasurer):</by>  I have been advised of the following:</inserted>
        </text>
        <text id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000808">
          <inserted>1.&amp;#x9;The Department for Education has a Property Services team which deals with the acquisition, disposal and leasing of real property required for public education services throughout the state. The Minister for Education is the registered proprietor of over 1,000 properties and is party to approximately 500 leases, licences and joint use agreements which require management and monitoring on an ongoing basis.</inserted>
        </text>
        <text id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000809">
          <inserted>In accordance with <term>Premier and Cabinet Circular 114 – Government Real Property Management</term>, the Department for Education engages Renewal SA to arrange for the disposal of surplus properties and the acquisition of property when required. The department's Property Services team liaises with Renewal SA to arrange the appropriate approvals required from the Minister for Education as part of the acquisition and disposal process; however Renewal SA is responsible for the work associated with the acquisition and disposal of property for the department.</inserted>
        </text>
        <text id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000810">
          <inserted>In accordance with <term>Premier and Cabinet Circular 018 – Government Office Accommodation Framework</term>, the Department for Education is required to have all corporate leased office accommodation negotiated and managed by the Department of Planning, Transport and Infrastructure (DPTI). The Department for Education's Property Services team liaises with DPTI to arrange appropriate approvals required to secure the department's leased accommodation both within the Adelaide CBD, metropolitan and regional South Australia.</inserted>
        </text>
        <text id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000811">
          <inserted>The Department of Planning, Transport and Infrastructure's (DPTI) has advised the following:</inserted>
        </text>
        <text continued="true" id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000812">
          <inserted>Property Purchase</inserted>
        </text>
        <text id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000813">
          <item sublevel="1" bullet="true">
            <inserted>DPTI undertakes its own property purchasing when required but rarely purchases property and has no resources dedicated to property purchasing. </inserted>
          </item>
        </text>
        <text id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000814">
          <item sublevel="1" bullet="true">
            <inserted>DPTI is unaware which other agencies have property purchasing powers or undertake property purchases.</inserted>
          </item>
        </text>
        <text continued="true" id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000815">
          <inserted>Property Disposal</inserted>
        </text>
        <text id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000816">
          <item sublevel="1" bullet="true">
            <inserted>Disposal of Property across government is controlled via Premier and Cabinet Circular PC114—Government Real Property Management (PC114). </inserted>
          </item>
        </text>
        <text id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000817">
          <item sublevel="1" bullet="true">
            <inserted>DPTI is one of few agencies authorised to dispose of property under PC114. </inserted>
          </item>
        </text>
        <text id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000818">
          <item sublevel="1" bullet="true">
            <inserted>DPTI is aware that Renewal SA and the Department of Treasury and Finance (DTF) (Market Projects Group) for specific assets, also have authorisation for property disposals.</inserted>
          </item>
        </text>
        <text continued="true" id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000819">
          <inserted>Property Leasing</inserted>
        </text>
        <text id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000820">
          <item sublevel="1" bullet="true">
            <inserted>Leasing of Property across government is controlled via Premier and Cabinet Circular PC018—Government Office Accommodation Framework (PC018) for office accommodation. </inserted>
          </item>
        </text>
        <text id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000821">
          <item sublevel="1" bullet="true">
            <inserted>DPTI is the managing agency for the whole of government office accommodation leasing (i.e. as a centralised function) ensuring coordinated participation in the market and avoiding agencies unknowingly competing for the same accommodation.</inserted>
          </item>
        </text>
        <text id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000822">
          <inserted>In regard to the State Government's urban development agency Renewal SA, I can advise this agency was responsible until 30 June 2018 for the lease, sale, acquisition and disposal of property in the following three ways:</inserted>
        </text>
        <page num="1369" />
        <text id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000823">
          <inserted>Firstly, property under the direct ownership of Renewal SA.</inserted>
        </text>
        <text id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000824">
          <inserted>Secondly, in terms of Premier and Cabinet Circular 114 (known as <term>'Government Real Property Management'</term>), Renewal SA is and remains responsible for the purchase and disposal of real property on behalf of the majority of State Government agencies.</inserted>
        </text>
        <text id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000825">
          <inserted>The following government entities are among those that have exemptions under PCC114 and can therefore manage the sale and disposal of their own property:</inserted>
        </text>
        <text id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000826">
          <item sublevel="1" bullet="true">
            <inserted>Department of Environment, Water and Natural Resources (which manages Crown land); </inserted>
          </item>
        </text>
        <text id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000827">
          <item sublevel="1" bullet="true">
            <inserted>Department of Planning, Transport and Infrastructure (which manages numerous major infrastructure projects that typically involve land transactions); </inserted>
          </item>
        </text>
        <text id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000828">
          <item sublevel="1" bullet="true">
            <inserted>Defence SA; </inserted>
          </item>
        </text>
        <text id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000829">
          <item sublevel="1" bullet="true">
            <inserted>Forestry SA; </inserted>
          </item>
        </text>
        <text id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000830">
          <item sublevel="1" bullet="true">
            <inserted>SA Water; </inserted>
          </item>
        </text>
        <text id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000831">
          <item sublevel="1" bullet="true">
            <inserted>HomeStart Finance; and </inserted>
          </item>
        </text>
        <text id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000832">
          <item sublevel="1" bullet="true">
            <inserted>South Australian Housing Trust.</inserted>
          </item>
        </text>
        <text id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000833">
          <inserted>Thirdly, Renewal SA was responsible through administration arrangements for the sale and disposal of properties under the ownership of the South Australian Housing Trust.</inserted>
        </text>
        <text id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000834">
          <inserted>It is important to note that this third arrangement–that is, the one between Renewal SA and the Housing Trust–ended on 1 July 2018 with the establishment of the state government's new Housing Authority. This new statutory corporation has taken over responsibility from Renewal SA for the management of Housing Trust assets, including their lease, sale, acquisition and disposal.</inserted>
        </text>
        <text id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000835">
          <inserted>For the avoidance of any doubt, Renewal SA remains responsible for the lease, sale, acquisition and disposal of property under its direct ownership as well as the purchase and disposal of property on behalf of other agencies under Premier and Cabinet Circular 114.</inserted>
        </text>
        <text id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000836">
          <inserted>2.&amp;#x9;The Department for Education's Property Services team is comprised of 5.0 FTE staff, with a total annual salary cost of $488,000 in 2017-18.</inserted>
        </text>
        <text id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000837">
          <inserted>The Department of Planning, Transport and Infrastructure's (DPTI) has advised the following:</inserted>
        </text>
        <text continued="true" id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000838">
          <inserted>Property Purchase</inserted>
        </text>
        <text id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000839">
          <item sublevel="1" bullet="true">
            <inserted>DPTI have no dedicated resources for government property purchases and rarely purchases property.</inserted>
          </item>
        </text>
        <text continued="true" id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000840">
          <inserted>Property Disposal</inserted>
        </text>
        <text id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000841">
          <item sublevel="1" bullet="true">
            <inserted>DPTI has two award level staff dedicated to managing the DPTI Property Disposal function inclusive of Government Employee Housing (GEH), Rail Commissioner and other DPTI annual disposal programs.</inserted>
          </item>
        </text>
        <text continued="true" id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000842">
          <inserted>Property Leasing</inserted>
        </text>
        <text id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000843">
          <item sublevel="1" bullet="true">
            <inserted>DPTI is responsible for the centralised whole of government office accommodation leasing function and has four award staff dedicated to the leasing function.</inserted>
          </item>
        </text>
        <text id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000844">
          <inserted>In regard to the number of people involved in these three streams of activity and the associated salary costs across Renewal SA, I can advise the following:</inserted>
        </text>
        <text id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000845">
          <inserted>Firstly, in regard to the lease, sale, acquisition and disposal of property directly owned by Renewal SA, the agency employs a total of nine staff (8.4 FTEs) dedicated to these functions with a total annual salary bill of $920,007.</inserted>
        </text>
        <text id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000846">
          <inserted>Secondly, in regard to Renewal SA's activity under Premier and Cabinet Circular 114, three staff (2.6 FTEs) are currently employed with a total annual salary bill of $235,233.</inserted>
        </text>
        <text id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000847">
          <inserted>Thirdly, in regard to the administration of Housing Trust properties previously undertaken by Renewal SA and transferred from 1 July 2018 to the new South Australian Housing Authority, this function involves a total of 12 staff (11 FTEs) with an annual salary bill of $618,509.</inserted>
        </text>
        <text id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000848">
          <inserted>3.&amp;#x9;The Department of Planning, Transport and Infrastructure's (DPTI) has advised the following:</inserted>
        </text>
        <text continued="true" id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000849">
          <inserted>Property Purchase</inserted>
        </text>
        <text id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000850">
          <item sublevel="1" bullet="true">
            <inserted>DPTI have previously identified in a joint paper with Renewal SA in 2016 that the across government purchasing function should be captured under PC114 as a centralised function; </inserted>
          </item>
        </text>
        <text id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000851">
          <item sublevel="1" bullet="true">
            <inserted>This was primarily as a coordination function to ensure rationalisation of existing government owned property and to prevent unnecessary purchasing of property where government already owns property.</inserted>
          </item>
        </text>
        <text id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000852">
          <item sublevel="1" bullet="true">
            <inserted>The compulsory acquisition function is a completely separate function and operates under <term>the Land Acquisition Act 1969</term>.</inserted>
          </item>
        </text>
        <page num="1370" />
        <text continued="true" id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000853">
          <inserted>Property Disposal</inserted>
        </text>
        <text id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000854">
          <item sublevel="1" bullet="true">
            <inserted>This function is already centralised across government under PC114 and predominantly under the Minister for Transport, Infrastructure and Local Government.</inserted>
          </item>
        </text>
        <text continued="true" id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000855">
          <inserted>Property Leasing</inserted>
        </text>
        <text id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000856">
          <item sublevel="1" bullet="true">
            <inserted>This function is already centralised across government under PC018 for office accommodation under the Minister for Transport, Infrastructure and Local Government.</inserted>
          </item>
        </text>
        <text id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000857">
          <inserted>I can further advise the establishment of the new Housing Authority is still in its early days and while Renewal SA staff formerly involved with Housing Trust property were transferred under machinery of government changes to the new Housing Authority, final staff numbers and associated salary costs are still being worked through.</inserted>
        </text>
        <text id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000858">
          <inserted>4.&amp;#x9;The Department of Planning, Transport and Infrastructure's (DPTI) has advised the following:</inserted>
        </text>
        <text id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000859">
          <inserted>As the property disposal and office accommodation leasing functions are already centralised via government policy, this has already been actioned.</inserted>
        </text>
        <text id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000860">
          <inserted>There is room to centralise the property purchasing function, but this is more a property usage efficiency issue rather than a savings issue.</inserted>
        </text>
        <text id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000861">
          <inserted>5.&amp;#x9;The Department of Planning, Transport and Infrastructure's (DPTI) has advised the following:</inserted>
        </text>
        <text id="2018091899b1aa2b0bf84f16b0000862">
          <inserted>Refer to the answer under question 4</inserted>
        </text>
      </talker>
    </subject>
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