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  <date date="2018-07-04" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Fourth Parliament, First Session (54-1)</sessionName>
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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Disability Services</name>
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        <heading>Disability Services</heading>
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      <talker role="member" id="4697" kind="question">
        <name>The Hon. K.J. MAHER</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
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            <name>Leader of the Opposition</name>
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            <name>Disability Services</name>
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          <by role="member" id="4697">The Hon. K.J. MAHER (Leader of the Opposition) (14:42):</by>  Supplementary arising from the answer: minister, can you guarantee that workers in this area won't be worse off under your privatisation?</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
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            <name>Minister for Human Services</name>
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          <question date="2018-07-04">
            <name>Disability Services</name>
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        <startTime time="2018-07-04T14:42:33" />
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          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK (Minister for Human Services) (14:42):</by>  Again, I think the honourable member makes a number of incorrect premises, which I will choose to ignore. I am not quite sure what the definition of 'worse off' is. If the Leader of the Opposition is talking about pay and conditions, then I can't see that that is the case. If people choose to work in some other space and they are therefore unhappy, then that's their decision. I am not quite sure how I have any control over that.</text>
        <text id="2018070464873f22afa3435b90000098">There is, I think, a bit of a misunderstanding in relation to the non-government sector. I have seen some remarks in the press recently that the non-government sector doesn't offer the same sorts of arrangements. That is not my understanding. I understand that their conditions are just as good as anywhere else. There are a number of specialist providers that have emerged both within disabilities and within the ageing sector over the years.</text>
        <text id="2018070464873f22afa3435b90000099">The government services emerged because, in the days when people weren't able to get a service from a non-government provider, the government was there to provide that service. That landscape has changed. It has changed because of a range of aged-care reforms. It is also changing because of the NDIS. We are in a very different landscape today than we would have been 20 or 30 years ago. There are a lot of non-government providers who provide services to people with quite complex needs and they do a really good job. I think they would probably be quite offended if anyone suggested that their service was inferior to a state government service.</text>
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        <name>The Hon. T.A. Franks</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
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          <by role="member" id="4363">The Hon. T.A. Franks:</by>  Supplementary.</text>
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