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  <name>Legislative Council</name>
  <date date="2018-05-10" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Fourth Parliament, First Session (54-1)</sessionName>
  <parliamentNum>54</parliamentNum>
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  <parliamentName>Parliament of South Australia</parliamentName>
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  <proceeding continued="true">
    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Health Policy</name>
      <text id="20180510aa1e861846654279b0000077">
        <heading>Health Policy</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="5412" kind="question">
        <name>The Hon. C.M. SCRIVEN</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <questions>
          <question date="2018-05-10">
            <name>Health Policy</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2018-05-10T14:24:56" />
        <text id="20180510aa1e861846654279b0000078">
          <timeStamp time="2018-05-10T14:24:56" />
          <by role="member" id="5412">The Hon. C.M. SCRIVEN (14:24):</by>  I seek leave to make a brief explanation before asking a question of the Minister for Health and Wellbeing.</text>
        <text id="20180510aa1e861846654279b0000079">Leave granted.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5412" kind="question" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. C.M. SCRIVEN</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20180510aa1e861846654279b0000080">
          <by role="member" id="5412">The Hon. C.M. SCRIVEN:</by>  In question time on Tuesday, the minister informed the chamber that he would not be taking advice from his agency. Now he has had a few days to reflect on his answers, can he advise which areas of health policy he knows better than his department and which areas of health policy he will listen to his department on?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <electorate id="">Minister for Health and Wellbeing</electorate>
        <startTime time="2018-05-10T14:25:20" />
        <text id="20180510aa1e861846654279b0000081">
          <timeStamp time="2018-05-10T14:25:20" />
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE (Minister for Health and Wellbeing) (14:25):</by>  I am afraid that the honourable member is showing her apprentice status very clearly in that question, because if she bothered to read my answer, I did not say that I would not listen to my department. What I said was that I would not listen to my department alone. Under the repeated hectoring from the Leader of the Opposition—</text>
        <text id="20180510aa1e861846654279b0000082">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4697">The Hon. K.J. Maher interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20180510aa1e861846654279b0000083">
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE:</by>  Excuse me, President.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20180510aa1e861846654279b0000084">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Let the minister answer in silence.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4697" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. K.J. Maher</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20180510aa1e861846654279b0000085">
          <by role="member" id="4697">The Hon. K.J. Maher:</by>  I'm helping him because he doesn't remember what he said on Tuesday.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20180510aa1e861846654279b0000086">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Leader of the Opposition, you have not—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4697" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. K.J. Maher</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20180510aa1e861846654279b0000087">
          <by role="member" id="4697">The Hon. K.J. Maher:</by>  I am being helpful, President.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20180510aa1e861846654279b0000088">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  No, you're not being helpful; you're not helping me. Minister.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20180510aa1e861846654279b0000089">
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE:</by>  I will continue to listen to a range of clinicians—clinicians within the department, within the professional organisations and within the private sector. The fact of the matter is that your former government, the party that you stand with, spent the last four years hand-picking the clinicians with which—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3122">
        <name>The Hon. I.K. HUNTER</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20180510aa1e861846654279b0000090">
          <by role="member" id="3122">The Hon. I.K. HUNTER:</by>  Point of order, Mr President: similar to a point of order that was made yesterday by the Hon. Tammy Franks. When the minister is using the word 'your', he is referring to you, the Chair, and he should be directing his answer more clearly, sir.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20180510aa1e861846654279b0000091">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Thank you for your concern for me, Hon. Mr Hunter. Minister, please continue with your answer.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20180510aa1e861846654279b0000092">
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE:</by>  Thank you, Mr President, and thanks for your coaching. In relation to the honourable member's question, her government, in contrast with the intention of this government, the former Weatherill Labor government persistently only consulted the select clinicians within the Transforming Health framework. What I hear continually from clinicians is that they do not accept that closed shop, almost clan-like approach of the former Labor government, and they are very committed to an inclusive discussion.</text>
        <text id="20180510aa1e861846654279b0000093">I can assure you that I spent a lot of time talking to clinicians within the department and giving their advice due consideration, but I will not stop listening to comments from the professional associations, comments from the wider profession. We do not believe, like the Labor Party, that somehow government is some sort of deal between the Labor Party and the bureaucracy.</text>
      </talker>
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