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  <name>Legislative Council</name>
  <date date="2017-08-09" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Third Parliament, Second Session (53-2)</sessionName>
  <parliamentNum>53</parliamentNum>
  <sessionNum>2</sessionNum>
  <parliamentName>Parliament of South Australia</parliamentName>
  <house>Legislative Council</house>
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  <proceeding continued="true">
    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Police Civilianisation</name>
      <text id="2017080990458d06655c4bf180000111">
        <heading>Police Civilianisation</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="605" kind="question">
        <name>The Hon. R.I. LUCAS</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <questions>
          <question date="2017-08-09">
            <name>Police Civilianisation</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2017-08-09T14:43:50" />
        <text id="2017080990458d06655c4bf180000112">
          <timeStamp time="2017-08-09T14:43:50" />
          <by role="member" id="605">The Hon. R.I. LUCAS (14:43):</by>  I seek leave to make an explanation prior to directing a question to the Minister for Police on the subject of civilianisation of SAPOL.</text>
        <text id="2017080990458d06655c4bf180000113">Leave granted.</text>
      </talker>
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        <name>The Hon. R.I. LUCAS</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2017080990458d06655c4bf180000114">
          <by role="member" id="605">The Hon. R.I. LUCAS:</by>  Last year, in the Budget and Finance Committee, Commissioner Stevens gave evidence in relation to the civilianisation of prosecution services within SAPOL. At that time, he indicated that they had employed seven civilian prosecutors, and he indicated where they were deployed, and he said:</text>
        <text id="2017080990458d06655c4bf180000115">
          <inserted>This is being run as a trial and I have to say it's been very successful.</inserted>
        </text>
        <text continued="true" id="2017080990458d06655c4bf180000116">He went on to say that the cooperation:</text>
        <text id="2017080990458d06655c4bf180000117">
          <inserted>…has been excellent…</inserted>
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        <text id="2017080990458d06655c4bf180000118">
          <inserted>All of the indications are that this is a sound model and we would be looking to expand the number of civilian prosecutors to a degree as we move forward. We do not have a specific number on that at this point.</inserted>
        </text>
        <text continued="true" id="2017080990458d06655c4bf180000119">That was evidence given last year. The commissioner was also asked what the budget savings were in moving to civilianise prosecutions. He provided a partial answer to that in that he indicated the salary differential was $11,000, but he didn't indicate what the other savings were or that the value of the other savings that he acknowledged would be achieved. He also gave us examples of potential savings in relation to police housing in country areas, annual leave—which was two weeks less than for police prosecutors—uniforms and various other examples. My questions to the minister are:</text>
        <text id="2017080990458d06655c4bf180000120">1.&amp;#x9;Given the indication last year, can the minister update the council as to how many civilian prosecutors there are now and whether it is the commissioner's intent to continue over the forward estimates period to increase the number of civilian prosecutors?</text>
        <page num="7510" />
        <text id="2017080990458d06655c4bf180000121">2.&amp;#x9;Can he take on notice and bring back to the house not just the salary savings of $11,000 per civilian prosecutor that the commission achieves, but what the other estimated savings are that would be achieved for each additional civilian prosecutor employed by SAPOL in terms of accommodation, uniform, annual leave and any other costs?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. P. MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <electorate id="">Minister for Police, Minister for Correctional Services, Minister for Emergency Services, Minister for Road Safety</electorate>
        <startTime time="2017-08-09T14:46:13" />
        <text id="2017080990458d06655c4bf180000122">
          <timeStamp time="2017-08-09T14:46:13" />
          <by role="member" id="5084">The Hon. P. MALINAUSKAS (Minister for Police, Minister for Correctional Services, Minister for Emergency Services, Minister for Road Safety) (14:46):</by>  I am more than happy to take the Hon. Mr Lucas's question on notice, as requested. However, I am able to provide a bit of additional advice that may be of assistance to the Hon. Mr Lucas in regard to the prosecution unit.</text>
        <text id="2017080990458d06655c4bf180000123">I have been advised—and I am happy to confirm these numbers through the process of taking questions on notice—that SAPOL forecasts that by 30 June next year there would be an equivalent of 22 FTE positions in the prosecution role. From my information, I am assuming that would be 22 FTEs of non-sworn officers or civilians working in prosecutions forecasted for 30 June next year. I am more than happy to take the remainder of the Hon. Mr Lucas's question on notice, as suggested by him.</text>
      </talker>
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