Legislative Council Fifty-Third Parliament, Second Session (53-2) 53 2 Parliament of South Australia Legislative Council published Question Time HIV HIV The Hon. T.A. FRANKS Legislative Council HIV The Hon. T.A. FRANKS (15:09): I seek leave to make a brief explanation before addressing a question to the Minister for Police on the topic of blood-borne viruses and spitting. Leave granted. The Hon. T.A. FRANKS Legislative Council The Hon. T.A. FRANKS: The Australasian HIV and AIDS Conference is the premier medical scientific conference in the Australasian HIV and related diseases sector. It met here in Adelaide from 16 to 18 November and moved a unanimous resolution, which states: As researchers, clinicians, and civil society representatives, we are united in our commitment to a HIV response grounded in evidence and protective of the human rights of people living with and affected by HIV. This conference expresses its profound disappointment in the governments of South Australia, Western Australia and the Northern Territory for enacting anti scientific and counterproductive laws mandating HIV testing for people accused of spitting on law enforcement personnel, in the face of overwhelming evidence that such laws are neither effective nor necessary. HIV is not transmitted in saliva and these laws only serve to further marginalise and criminalise people with HIV. We call on all governments to establish evidence-based protocols that protect the wellbeing of police and emergency workers and the rights of people living with HIV. I note that when the state government brought in these laws, they did so because they sought to protect those who protect us, and everyone in this place and indeed the Greens support that goal. I note that there were 118 incidents in the year prior to 2013 that did involve officers being spat on. There were also 279 incidents where officers came into contact with blood and two occasions where an officer suffered a needlestick injury. My question to the Minister for Police is: will he ensure that the rollout of these tests, which will now see the offender tested rather than simply the officer, is based on a scientific and evidence-based principle, does not add to the stigma around people living with HIV and, where it is a blood-borne virus, saliva is not seen as a criterion for such testing, which will lead to this stigma? The Hon. P. MALINAUSKAS Legislative Council Minister for Police, Minister for Correctional Services, Minister for Emergency Services, Minister for Road Safety The Hon. P. MALINAUSKAS (Minister for Police, Minister for Correctional Services, Minister for Emergency Services, Minister for Road Safety) (15:12): Let me thank the Hon. Ms Franks for her important question. I am more than happy to take on notice the parts of the question that pertain to the responsibilities of the Attorney-General and seek an answer back as soon as possible, but I would just add a couple of remarks. Firstly, I appreciate the tenor of the honourable member's question. It won't surprise the honourable member that, as Minister for Police, my principal concern is of course with the safety of those men and women who do genuinely put themselves in harm's way to protect our community. I think it's important that, when men and women put on the uniform, they do so with the confidence that the government of the day, and indeed the parliament more broadly, have their interests at heart in trying to protect them from the range of different threats that they have to face on quite literally a regular basis, and this certainly falls into that category. Of course, you want to make sure that policy is balanced and evidence based as always, but where police officers have genuine concerns around the risks to them that may present from other offenders, then that also needs to be taken into account. I appreciate the remarks and sentiments of the Hon. Ms Franks, which are undoubtedly well meaning, but my principal concern will naturally be the interests of those men and women serving in uniform. Again, I am more than happy to take on notice the question that specifically goes to the responsibilities of the Attorney-General.