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  <name>Legislative Council</name>
  <date date="2016-09-22" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Third Parliament, Second Session (53-2)</sessionName>
  <parliamentNum>53</parliamentNum>
  <sessionNum>2</sessionNum>
  <parliamentName>Parliament of South Australia</parliamentName>
  <house>Legislative Council</house>
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  <proceeding>
    <name>Question Time</name>
    <text id="20160922437a64617db14157b0000008">
      <heading>Question Time</heading>
    </text>
    <subject>
      <name>SA Water Infrastructure</name>
      <text id="20160922437a64617db14157b0000009">
        <heading>SA Water Infrastructure</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="question">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <questions>
          <question date="2016-09-22">
            <name>SA Water Infrastructure</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2016-09-22T14:18:54" />
        <text id="20160922437a64617db14157b0000010">
          <timeStamp time="2016-09-22T14:18:54" />
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK (14:18):</by>  I seek leave to—</text>
        <text id="20160922437a64617db14157b0000011">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4697">The Hon. K.J. Maher interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="question" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20160922437a64617db14157b0000012">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  —make a brief—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20160922437a64617db14157b0000013">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Order!</text>
        <text id="20160922437a64617db14157b0000014">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="question" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20160922437a64617db14157b0000015">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  Mr President—</text>
        <text id="20160922437a64617db14157b0000016">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20160922437a64617db14157b0000017">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Just one sec. The honourable minister and the Leader of the Government, I will not tolerate such rudeness when a member is on their feet.</text>
        <text id="20160922437a64617db14157b0000018">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20160922437a64617db14157b0000019">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT</by>:  Order! I think it is absolutely appalling that members of the government are behaving in such a way. The Hon. Ms Lensink has the floor and we will hear her out without interruption. The Hon. Ms Lensink.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="question" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20160922437a64617db14157b0000020">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  Thank you for your protection, Mr President. I seek leave to make a brief explanation before directing a question to the Minister for Water and the River Murray on the subject of SA Water.</text>
        <text id="20160922437a64617db14157b0000021">Leave granted.</text>
        <text id="20160922437a64617db14157b0000022">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="question" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20160922437a64617db14157b0000023">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  Mr President.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20160922437a64617db14157b0000024">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Yes, I have already said once, and this is the second time, allow the Hon. Ms Lensink to ask her question without interruption. The Hon. Ms Lensink.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="2742" kind="question" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20160922437a64617db14157b0000025">
          <by role="member" id="2742">The Hon. J.M.A. LENSINK:</by>  Thank you, Mr President, again. My question is to the Minister for Water and the River Murray on the subject of SA Water. He would be well familiar with this case of Corinne and Patrick Mutz, who have had a very extensive water leak bill on their property in Upper Sturt which was outlined in <term>The Sunday Mail</term> a couple of weeks' ago and has also been the subject of talkback radio. I will refer to a response the minister provided to Mr and Mrs Mutz in July:</text>
        <page num="4840" />
        <text id="20160922437a64617db14157b0000026">
          <inserted>I understand on 30 December 2015, a notice of high water use was sent to your mailing address at the time. The notice suggested to check the meter read and the property for any leaks, and to repair any leaks as soon as possible. A copy of the notice is enclosed with this letter.</inserted>
        </text>
        <text id="20160922437a64617db14157b0000027">
          <inserted>I am advised that a leak was first reported to SA Water on 6 January 2016, on a footpath at—</inserted>
        </text>
        <text continued="true" id="20160922437a64617db14157b0000028">I will leave that address blank—</text>
        <text continued="true" id="20160922437a64617db14157b0000029">
          <inserted>SA Water attended within 90 minutes and noted a service leak crew was required. A neighbour who had reported the leak showed the attendant where the leak was on the private pipework.</inserted>
        </text>
        <text continued="true" id="20160922437a64617db14157b0000030">Several questions arise from this matter. Mr and Mrs Mutz say that they did not receive that notice of high water usage which has contributed to a very excessive high water bill from the leak and that they have only just been sent that notice fairly recently. My questions, firstly, are:</text>
        <text id="20160922437a64617db14157b0000031">1.&amp;#x9;Can the minister outline what exactly the SA Water process is and whether at any point SA Water is required to send notification by registered mail or attend the property in person to ensure that property owners are aware of leaks?</text>
        <text id="20160922437a64617db14157b0000032">2.&amp;#x9;Having attended the property on 6 January 2016, why did SA Water officers not attend the property to discuss the matter with the residents?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3122" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. I.K. HUNTER</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <electorate id="">Minister for Sustainability, Environment and Conservation, Minister for Water and the River Murray, Minister for Climate Change</electorate>
        <startTime time="2016-09-22T14:22:16" />
        <text id="20160922437a64617db14157b0000033">
          <timeStamp time="2016-09-22T14:22:16" />
          <by role="member" id="3122">The Hon. I.K. HUNTER (Minister for Sustainability, Environment and Conservation, Minister for Water and the River Murray, Minister for Climate Change) (14:22):</by>  I thank the honourable member for her most important questions on the subject of leaks, a highly sensitive subject for the Liberal Party at the moment, I understand. It is incredibly unusual for the Leader of the Opposition to give up his right to ask the first question in question time of the government.</text>
        <text id="20160922437a64617db14157b0000034">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20160922437a64617db14157b0000035">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT</by>:  Order! The minister has the floor and the minister will answer the question without interruption.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3122" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. I.K. HUNTER</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20160922437a64617db14157b0000036">
          <by role="member" id="3122">The Hon. I.K. HUNTER:</by>  Of course, I was never going to say anything about the Leader of the Opposition being absent from the chamber. That is unparliamentary, and I would not do that, but after his appalling performance in this place yesterday, when he demanded that the minister rule in or out something and then when it was put to him that, in fact, he has been out there actively undermining the leader of the Liberal Party in the other place, he would not rule that in or out. He sat down on his hands; no comment. When it was put to him that he has actually been out—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="599" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. J.S.L. Dawkins</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20160922437a64617db14157b0000037">
          <by role="member" id="599">The Hon. J.S.L. Dawkins:</by>  What's that got to do with the question?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3122" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. I.K. HUNTER</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20160922437a64617db14157b0000038">
          <by role="member" id="3122">The Hon. I.K. HUNTER:</by>  I will come to the leaks in a minute, the Hon. Mr Dawkins—I will come to the leaks in a minute. When it was put to the Leader of the Opposition that, in fact, he has been out shopping around to find replacements for sitting Liberal MPs and offering them the front bench position of some existing shadow ministers on the Liberal side, he refused to answer. He refused to rule that in or rule that out. One can only surmise that, in fact, he has now been benched for that behaviour and given his right of first question over to the Hon. Michelle Lensink, who is a far superior performer in this place, I might add, and of course she asked a very important question, unlike the Hon. Mr Ridgway.</text>
        <text id="20160922437a64617db14157b0000039">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="1820">The Hon. D.W. Ridgway interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3122" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. I.K. HUNTER</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20160922437a64617db14157b0000040">
          <by role="member" id="3122">The Hon. I.K. HUNTER:</by>  I wouldn't talk about that either, the Hon. Mr Ridgway. That's a point of contention as well. We have had six weeks off, six weeks for the Liberals to go out and do some real hard research with some searching questions for the government. What was their first question on Tuesday? The Hon. Mr Ridgway got up and told me that government expenditure on flood watch in Bordertown was a waste of money—that was it. That was his first question after a six-week break. Where did he get that from? From a press release I put out a week earlier. That is the level of research that goes on in the Liberal Party opposition; they are absolute losers. No wonder they have not be able to win an election in this state for a number years.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1820" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. D.W. Ridgway</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20160922437a64617db14157b0000041">
          <by role="member" id="1820">The Hon. D.W. Ridgway:</by>  Get on with the answer.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3122" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. I.K. HUNTER</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <page num="4841" />
        <text id="20160922437a64617db14157b0000042">
          <by role="member" id="3122">The Hon. I.K. HUNTER:</by>  I will, because the Hon. Michelle Lensink, as always, has demonstrated a degree of professionalism in this place and her questions are always to the point, unlike what we have seen from the Liberal Leader of the Opposition. Now, SA Water does receive—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. Wade</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20160922437a64617db14157b0000043">
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. Wade:</by>  Oh, he mentioned the topic.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3122" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. I.K. HUNTER</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20160922437a64617db14157b0000044">
          <by role="member" id="3122">The Hon. I.K. HUNTER:</by>  Well, I can go on at length on other issues if people want me to, but I think it is appropriate that I give the honourable member a very studied and detailed answer to her question.</text>
        <text id="20160922437a64617db14157b0000045">SA Water receives a large number of inquiries from customers about their water bills, as you would expect. Where a scheduled meter reading indicates an abnormal change in the level of water use at a property, SA Water issues a notice of high water use to alert the property owner of the high usage.</text>
        <text id="20160922437a64617db14157b0000046">Provided that certain conditions are met, SA Water provides customers experiencing high water use with assistance for a leakage allowance or an unexplained high water use allowance. I am advised there is absolutely no legislative requirement for SA Water to do that, but they think it is good corporate practice to do so, to provide those allowances to customers due to leakage and inexplicable water use.</text>
        <text id="20160922437a64617db14157b0000047">However, SA Water understands the financial implications that an unexpected high bill can cause and has created these allowances to help customers in these situations. A policy supporting high water use allowances has been in place since 1969. The policy provides eligible customers with an allowance of up to 50 per cent of deemed water wastage.</text>
        <text id="20160922437a64617db14157b0000048">In recent years, this was capped at 300 kilolitres, and as of 1 July 2016 all allowances are subject to a maximum payment of equivalent to 600 kilolitres, which is approximately $2,000, based on 2016-17 water use prices. Under the water retail code for major retailers, SA Water has an obligation to inform a customer of an abnormal change in the level of consumption at their property.</text>
        <text id="20160922437a64617db14157b0000049">SA Water provides property owners with a notice of high water use via Australia Post, I am advised, informing of higher than normal usage, and encourages owners to check for leaks. SA Water can only become aware of the higher usage at the time of the meter reading. Meter reading results are generally uploaded to SA Water's billing system nightly. At this time, the billing system (CSIS) compares water use for the current period with prior water use, and a notice of high water use is automatically triggered where consumption for the period is:</text>
        <text id="20160922437a64617db14157b0000050">(a)&amp;#x9;higher than 200 kilolitres;</text>
        <text id="20160922437a64617db14157b0000051">(b)&amp;#x9;at least 70 per cent higher than the average water use for the similar periods of the previous years; and</text>
        <text id="20160922437a64617db14157b0000052">(c)&amp;#x9;at least 50 kilolitres greater than the highest water use recorded for similar periods of the previous three years.</text>
        <text continued="true" id="20160922437a64617db14157b0000053">Notices issued are flagged against the property account in the CSIS, and a weekly file is sent to SA Water's account printing contractor, Fuji Xerox, which prints and lodges the notices with Australia Post as priority mail, I am advised. I am also advised that Fuji Xerox has strict controls to ensure that all notices printed are lodged for posting.</text>
        <text id="20160922437a64617db14157b0000054">Approximately 500 notices of high water use are sent out each week, and to improve customer service SA Water is exploring opportunities to issue notices on a daily basis and using SMS technology to provide phone alerts for customers. SA Water has been capturing customer phone numbers in preparation of the implementation of the online customer portal in the first half of 2017, and SA Water's approach to informing customers of high water usage is in line with best practice in the country. I understand, for example, that in the Eastern States practices can vary, and customers may be informed either prior to or at the time of the issuing of bills.</text>
        <page num="4842" />
        <text id="20160922437a64617db14157b0000055">Other things that honourable members may care to be aware of are: only one unexplained high water use allowance can be applied during a customer's ownership of the property. The allowance may be applied where water usage at a property is greater than 150 kilolitres—I have gone through this earlier, and will not repeat it. This policy of SA Water has been in place for some time.</text>
        <text id="20160922437a64617db14157b0000056">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. Wade interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3122" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. I.K. HUNTER</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20160922437a64617db14157b0000057">
          <by role="member" id="3122">The Hon. I.K. HUNTER:</by>  Well done, the Hon. Mr Wade—the Hon. Mr Wade listens. The applicant must provide evidence in the form of a plumber's invoice or written confirmation of materials used to repair the leak in order to confirm that the leak has been repaired, and the policy is reviewed regularly to consider customer feedback in alignment with water industry practices.</text>
        <text id="20160922437a64617db14157b0000058">I am advised that a review of the policy was undertaken in January 2016, with a revised policy implemented on 1 July 2016. Changes from that 1 July 2016 period include: allowing one claim every five years (previously it was every 10 years), including leaks in irrigation systems and evaporative air conditioning systems as part of the eligibility criteria where it was not previously; and increasing the maximum payment from 300 kilolitres to 600 kilolitres, which is approximately $2,000 at 2016-17 prices, as I alluded to earlier.</text>
        <text id="20160922437a64617db14157b0000059">The leakage allowance, importantly, is not intended to provide full compensation for the water deemed to be wasted. Once an application is approved, the allowance is either applied towards the current bill or to charges which are yet to be billed in the form of a credit towards the account. Quite often the applicant, I am advised, is first alerted to the leak by notice of high water use; or where the increased water use has not reached the trigger point for a notice to be issued, the first alert may be the bill.</text>
        <text id="20160922437a64617db14157b0000060">By the time repairs to the leak occurred, the next reading period may also be affected by the high water use due to a leak. The allowance, therefore, can be applied across multiple periods and may impact water usage which has yet to be billed due to a leak occurring on the next reading period. Restricting the leakage allowance to one every five-year period encourages customers to maintain their private pipework, which is their responsibility, in good condition and prevent unnecessary wastage of water.</text>
      </talker>
    </subject>
  </proceeding>
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