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  <name>Legislative Council</name>
  <date date="2016-09-21" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Third Parliament, Second Session (53-2)</sessionName>
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  <parliamentName>Parliament of South Australia</parliamentName>
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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Emergency Services</name>
      <text id="201609214830b16134e944df80000145">
        <heading>Emergency Services</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="4364" kind="question">
        <name>The Hon. K.L. VINCENT</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <questions>
          <question date="2016-09-21">
            <name>Emergency Services</name>
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        <startTime time="2016-09-21T14:48:00" />
        <text id="201609214830b16134e944df80000146">
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          <by role="member" id="4364">The Hon. K.L. VINCENT (14:48):</by>  I seek leave to make a brief explanation, if that is alright with you, Mr Maher, before asking questions of the Minister for Emergency Services regarding the emergency caused by floods in Adelaide last Wednesday 14 September and broader questions regarding the accessibility of information relating to emergency management.</text>
        <text id="201609214830b16134e944df80000147">Leave granted.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4364" kind="question" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. K.L. VINCENT</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="201609214830b16134e944df80000148">
          <by role="member" id="4364">The Hon. K.L. VINCENT:</by>  Mr President, you will be aware that, following work by Dignity for Disability with the State Emergency Management Committee (SEMC) and the emergency services minister, the State Emergency Management Plan, policies and procedures, were amended in 2015 to ensure that Australian sign language (Auslan) interpreters would be employed for relevant TV broadcasts pertaining to emergency information, such as bushfire or flood—</text>
        <text id="201609214830b16134e944df80000149">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
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      <talker role="member" id="4364" kind="question" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. K.L. VINCENT</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="201609214830b16134e944df80000150">
          <by role="member" id="4364">The Hon. K.L. VINCENT:</by>  And I am happy to slow down until everyone is listening but, until then, let's all put our hands in our laps, put our listening ears on and listen. Okay? I am not in the mood today.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1819" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. T.J. Stephens</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="201609214830b16134e944df80000151">
          <by role="member" id="1819">The Hon. T.J. Stephens:</by>  Boohoo!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4364" kind="question" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. K.L. VINCENT</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="201609214830b16134e944df80000152">
          <by role="member" id="4364">The Hon. K.L. VINCENT:</by>  No, not boohoo. It's parliamentary procedure, actually, Mr Stephens. It's not about my feelings, it's about parliamentary procedure.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1819" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. T.J. Stephens</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="201609214830b16134e944df80000153">
          <by role="member" id="1819">The Hon. T.J. Stephens:</by>  Just get on with it.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="201609214830b16134e944df80000154">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  The Hon. Mr Stephens, the Hon. Ms Vincent has the floor and I think she deserves our respect to be able to give her contribution and question in silence. The Hon. Ms Vincent.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4364" kind="question" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. K.L. VINCENT</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="201609214830b16134e944df80000155">
          <by role="member" id="4364">The Hon. K.L. VINCENT:</by>  I also understand that, at the July 2015 emergency management committee meeting, the Premier also deemed it desirable for an Auslan interpreter to be present at any live emergency/warning media coverage where the Premier or the minister or a senior executive is present. The State Public Information and Warning Advisory Group (SPIWAG) of the State Emergency Management Committee has been working with government agencies and service providers to develop a whole-of-government approach for the provision of Auslan interpretation services, and processes are being developed to provide contractual arrangements for the provision of these services.</text>
        <text id="201609214830b16134e944df80000156">However, last Wednesday, no Auslan interpreters were present on any TV broadcasts that warned of rising floodwaters across metropolitan Adelaide, nor in warnings not to drive, walk or move through these waters. Rapid Bay Primary School was, as you will recall, evacuated via a tractor or digger, while images of people surfing across Bridgewater Oval were, concerningly, broadcast. However, no Auslan interpreters, for deaf South Australians who rely on interpretation, were present to warn them about these issues and, therefore, they risked missing out on this information.</text>
        <text id="201609214830b16134e944df80000157">I also note that people requiring captions reported to me that they found the captioning on these news services inadequate and inaccurate in many instances. My questions are:</text>
        <text id="201609214830b16134e944df80000158">1.&amp;#x9;Given the Premier deemed, at the July 2015 State Emergency Management Committee meeting, that it was desirable that an Auslan interpreter be present at any live broadcast, why was this not the case?</text>
        <text id="201609214830b16134e944df80000159">2.&amp;#x9;Can the minister guarantee that Auslan interpretation will be used for television broadcasts for this coming fire season, given that we are facing a high-risk season following heavy rains this winter?</text>
        <text id="201609214830b16134e944df80000160">3.&amp;#x9;Can the minister provide an update on the introduction of other measures, especially captioning, to ensure that safety-related information can also be accessed by people who are hard of hearing but do not use Auslan?</text>
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        <text id="201609214830b16134e944df80000161">4.&amp;#x9;Can the minister provide an update as to the production and distribution of accessible information about emergency preparedness for individuals in contrast to the information available once an emergency is declared?</text>
        <text id="201609214830b16134e944df80000162">5.&amp;#x9;What action has the minister taken to ensure that South Australia has an adequate number of qualified and accredited Auslan interpreters to service this need?</text>
        <text id="201609214830b16134e944df80000163">6.&amp;#x9;If no action has been taken, will he speak to the Minister for Higher Education and Skills in the other place about the need to recruit more Auslan interpreters to fill this need in this state?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5084" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. P. MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <electorate id="">Minister for Police, Minister for Correctional Services, Minister for Emergency Services, Minister for Road Safety</electorate>
        <startTime time="2016-09-21T14:52:15" />
        <text id="201609214830b16134e944df80000164">
          <timeStamp time="2016-09-21T14:52:15" />
          <by role="member" id="5084">The Hon. P. MALINAUSKAS (Minister for Police, Minister for Correctional Services, Minister for Emergency Services, Minister for Road Safety) (14:52):</by>  I thank the honourable member for her question and her ongoing advocacy of South Australians who suffer from a hearing disability. The honourable member is right to refer to key dates last year regarding this particular issue. I am advised that on 25 June last year, at a meeting of the State Emergency Management Committee, an amendment was made to the State Emergency Management Plan to provide for the use of Auslan interpreters for declared emergencies. To be more specific and for the information of the Hon. Ms Vincent, under section 7.8 of the State Emergency Management Plan:</text>
        <text id="201609214830b16134e944df80000165">
          <inserted>In addition to other methods of disseminating public information and warnings, the Control Agency is responsible to ensure that all live televised warnings, or major public information press conferences (e.g. attended by the Premier, State Coordinator and/or State Controller) issues for declared emergencies are supported with the use of an accredited Australian Sign Language (Auslan) interpreter.</inserted>
        </text>
        <text id="201609214830b16134e944df80000166">
          <inserted>In the event that securing an accredited Auslan interpreter would cause critical delay in the broadcasting of an urgent message to the community, the Control Agency will determine if the message should be broadcast without that support.</inserted>
        </text>
        <text continued="true" id="201609214830b16134e944df80000167">Critically, under the State Emergency Management Plan, what this provides for is Auslan interpretation services, as far as is reasonably practicable, to be provided in the event that there is a declared emergency. Last week was a significant weather event and it resulted in a number of South Australians being affected through storm damage and also flood damage, which is of course regrettable, but it did not constitute a declared emergency.</text>
        <text id="201609214830b16134e944df80000168">A declared emergency is something that is far more significant than that and something that, obviously, would represent a significant and imminent threat to life. Once that threshold is met then, of course, under the State Emergency Management Plan, or this particular amendment (which I know the Hon. Ms Vincent played a role in advocating for), Auslan interpreters would be made available.</text>
        <text id="201609214830b16134e944df80000169">Indeed, the government has established processes to provide for contractual arrangements for the provision of Auslan translation services for emergency incidents relevant to the CFS as well as the SES. Bookings require minimum notification times of at least one hour for those services to be able to get into the CBD and up to two hours plus travel time for services in metropolitan and regional areas.</text>
        <text id="201609214830b16134e944df80000170">What we have to try to pursue here is a bit of a balance. We want to make sure that when there are significant emergencies that present, in particular, a significant threat to life, or if there is a declared emergency, we go out of our way to make sure that we have Auslan interpreters. Whether or not that is something that is practical every single time there is an emergency services announcement is a separate matter.</text>
        <text id="201609214830b16134e944df80000171">If the Hon. Ms Vincent has concerns about the arrangements that exist within the State Emergency Management Plan, as always I am happy to sit down with her, or any other advocate who is concerned about this issue, and contemplate whether or not there needs to be further amendments made to that plan. As it stands, the events of last week occurred in such a way that the plan was complied with in respect of Auslan interpreters.</text>
        <text id="201609214830b16134e944df80000172">The advice I have received from my officials in Emergency Services is that the current arrangement is adequate and appropriate. Of course, if there is a view that the State Emergency Management Plan can be improved in any way, I am more than happy to take representations for that.</text>
      </talker>
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