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  <name>Legislative Council</name>
  <date date="2016-07-27" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Third Parliament, Second Session (53-2)</sessionName>
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  <parliamentName>Parliament of South Australia</parliamentName>
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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Indigenous Youth Incarceration</name>
      <text id="20160727babe6bc5c7264663a0000426">
        <heading>Indigenous Youth Incarceration</heading>
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      <talker role="member" id="4363" kind="question">
        <name>The Hon. T.A. FRANKS</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
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          <question date="2016-07-27">
            <name>Indigenous Youth Incarceration</name>
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        <startTime time="2016-07-27T15:08:25" />
        <text id="20160727babe6bc5c7264663a0000427">
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          <by role="member" id="4363">The Hon. T.A. FRANKS (15:08):</by>  I seek leave to make a brief explanation before addressing a question to the Minister for Correctional Services and Police on the topic of Indigenous youth in incarceration.</text>
        <text id="20160727babe6bc5c7264663a0000428">Leave granted.</text>
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        <name>The Hon. T.A. FRANKS</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20160727babe6bc5c7264663a0000429">
          <by role="member" id="4363">The Hon. T.A. FRANKS:</by>  As members would be well aware, the <term>Four Corners</term> program this past Monday night portrayed horrific cruelty inflicted on children as young as 10 years old in the Don Dale juvenile detention facility in the Northern Territory. Of course, this is in the context of acceptably and inequitably high youth incarceration rates in this country, and comes some 25 years after the Royal Commission into Aboriginal Deaths in Custody, with its 339 recommendations. My questions to the minister are:</text>
        <text id="20160727babe6bc5c7264663a0000430">1.&amp;#x9;Have any children from the lands, or from South Australia, ended up in Northern Territory juvenile detention in the past 10 years, because, of course, there is a transient nature (particularly in Alice Springs) that the minister is aware of?</text>
        <text id="20160727babe6bc5c7264663a0000431">2.&amp;#x9;Has the minister been approached or has he initiated conversations about issuing a letters patent to participate in a royal commission into this particular matter as announced by Prime Minister Turnbull?</text>
        <page num="4634" />
        <text id="20160727babe6bc5c7264663a0000432">3.&amp;#x9;What is the percentage currently of young people in detention in our state?</text>
        <text id="20160727babe6bc5c7264663a0000433">4.&amp;#x9;What is the status of the implementation of the Royal Commission into Aboriginal Deaths in Custody in our state?</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="5084" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. P. MALINAUSKAS</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <electorate id="">Minister for Police, Minister for Correctional Services, Minister for Emergency Services, Minister for Road Safety</electorate>
        <startTime time="2016-07-27T15:10:14" />
        <text id="20160727babe6bc5c7264663a0000434">
          <timeStamp time="2016-07-27T15:10:14" />
          <by role="member" id="5084">The Hon. P. MALINAUSKAS (Minister for Police, Minister for Correctional Services, Minister for Emergency Services, Minister for Road Safety) (15:10):</by>  I would like to thank the honourable member for her important question. I think any decent Australian would have been horrified at the report on Monday night. I have to say that I watched it and was somewhat shocked to see that that sort of treatment of children could occur in our country today. I think many of us within the community who care about correctional services, and I know the honourable member is certainly one of those people, would have been horrified to see that this sort of thing has been going on in modern Australia.</text>
        <text id="20160727babe6bc5c7264663a0000435">Of course, as the honourable member would be aware, I am not the responsible minister when it comes to juvenile detention, so for the parts of her question that are best addressed to the honourable member in the other place, I am more than happy to do that. But she did touch on a few questions that I think I may be able to help with, not necessarily in a juvenile context, but in an adult context.</text>
        <text id="20160727babe6bc5c7264663a0000436">Regarding the question of the letters patent, I am not aware at this stage of any such request. Of course, if one were to be made then that would be considered by the government as appropriate to do so. I understand that the royal commission at this stage is being aimed at what is happening in the Northern Territory, although it may be the case that those terms of reference are expanded and if that occurs, of course, the government will consider any requests from the commonwealth that are made.</text>
        <text id="20160727babe6bc5c7264663a0000437">In terms of the percentage of prisoners, a figure that I have referred to in the past in this forum and one, of course, which is rather concerning is that, as of 30 June this year, I am advised that 22.6 per cent of the adult prisoner population in South Australia is Aboriginal. It is a massive over-representation. I know that many of us are concerned about that. Of course, that is in comparison to an Aboriginal population in the state of South Australia, which I understand is around about 3 to 4 per cent, so it is a massive over-representation.</text>
        <text id="20160727babe6bc5c7264663a0000438">Regarding the other parts of the <term>Four Corners</term> report, I am happy to advise the chamber that I have had a number of discussions only this morning regarding this issue. Naturally, I have had a discussion with my chief executive, although that is in respect of adult prisoners. I am currently the acting minister for minister Bettison from the other place who is currently overseas, so I have urgently sought a meeting and had one this morning with the relevant chief executive and his key executive directors regarding this issue and we have had discussion about that.</text>
        <text id="20160727babe6bc5c7264663a0000439">I am also in the process of writing to them formally on behalf of the government to seek assurances that the sort of behaviour that we saw on <term>Four Corners</term> on Monday night is not happening in South Australia. The information I have received thus far, which has only been verbal, gives me every indication that there is no reason for concern, but as a government we are going to go through a process to seek more information regarding that because it is an important issue to all Australians in light of what we saw on Monday night.</text>
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