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  <name>Legislative Council</name>
  <date date="2015-02-26" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Third Parliament, Second Session (53-2)</sessionName>
  <parliamentNum>53</parliamentNum>
  <sessionNum>2</sessionNum>
  <parliamentName>Parliament of South Australia</parliamentName>
  <house>Legislative Council</house>
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  <dateModified time="2022-08-06T14:30:00+00:00" />
  <proceeding continued="true">
    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Skills for All</name>
      <text id="20150226fbef977727d9468c90000080">
        <heading>Skills for All</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="605" kind="question">
        <name>The Hon. R.I. LUCAS</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <questions>
          <question date="2015-02-26">
            <name>Skills for All</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2015-02-26T14:44:42" />
        <text id="20150226fbef977727d9468c90000081">
          <timeStamp time="2015-02-26T14:44:42" />
          <by role="member" id="605">The Hon. R.I. LUCAS (14:44):</by>  Mr President, if the minister now concedes that she was briefed prior to yesterday in relation to this $1.9 million, why did she indicate variously yesterday that she did not know the details, she did not have any information, and this was an operational issue for TAFE to handle?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1821" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. G.E. GAGO</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <electorate id="">Minister for Employment, Higher Education and Skills, Minister for Science and Information Economy, Minister for the Status of Women, Minister for Business Services and Consumers</electorate>
        <questions>
          <question date="2015-02-26">
            <name>Skills for All</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2015-02-26T14:45:00" />
        <text id="20150226fbef977727d9468c90000082">
          <timeStamp time="2015-02-26T14:45:00" />
          <by role="member" id="1821">The Hon. G.E. GAGO (Minister for Employment, Higher Education and Skills, Minister for Science and Information Economy, Minister for the Status of Women, Minister for Business Services and Consumers) (14:45):</by>  I did no such thing, sir; no such thing at all. Mr President—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="605" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. R.I. Lucas</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20150226fbef977727d9468c90000083">
          <by role="member" id="605">The Hon. R.I. Lucas:</by>  I just read it out—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1821" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. G.E. GAGO</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20150226fbef977727d9468c90000084">
          <by role="member" id="1821">The Hon. G.E. GAGO:</by>  Mr President, what I said yesterday—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="605" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. R.I. Lucas</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20150226fbef977727d9468c90000085">
          <by role="member" id="605">The Hon. R.I. Lucas:</by>  —'I don't have that level of detail.'</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20150226fbef977727d9468c90000086">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  The Hon. Mr Lucas, let the minister answer.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1821" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. G.E. GAGO</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20150226fbef977727d9468c90000087">
          <by role="member" id="1821">The Hon. G.E. GAGO:</by>  —was that I did not have that level of detail. I never said—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="605" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. R.I. Lucas</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20150226fbef977727d9468c90000088">
          <by role="member" id="605">The Hon. R.I. Lucas:</by>  You didn't have anything!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1821" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. G.E. GAGO</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20150226fbef977727d9468c90000089">
          <by role="member" id="1821">The Hon. G.E. GAGO:</by>  You come into this place and you just say things that are wrong—that are blatantly incorrect.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="605" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. R.I. Lucas</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20150226fbef977727d9468c90000090">
          <by role="member" id="605">The Hon. R.I. Lucas:</by>  No, I didn't; you're not telling the truth.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1821" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. G.E. GAGO</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20150226fbef977727d9468c90000091">
          <by role="member" id="1821">The Hon. G.E. GAGO:</by>  The Hon. Rob Lucas comes into this place day after day—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="605" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. R.I. Lucas</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20150226fbef977727d9468c90000092">
          <by role="member" id="605">The Hon. R.I. Lucas:</by>  You are not telling the truth!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20150226fbef977727d9468c90000093">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Minister, sit down, please. We do not want a debate across the floor. The minister is giving an answer. You might not like the answer, but that is her answer. Minister.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="605" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. R.I. Lucas</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20150226fbef977727d9468c90000094">
          <by role="member" id="605">The Hon. R.I. Lucas:</by>  She's not telling the truth.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1821" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. G.E. GAGO</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20150226fbef977727d9468c90000095">
          <by role="member" id="1821">The Hon. G.E. GAGO:</by>  Suck it in. You are squealing like a stuck pig; that's what he's doing.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20150226fbef977727d9468c90000096">
          <by role="office">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Minister, please keep your colourful language down also.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1821" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. G.E. GAGO</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20150226fbef977727d9468c90000097">
          <by role="member" id="1821">The Hon. G.E. GAGO:</by>  Thank you, Mr President. Again, he comes into this place and just says incorrect things. I never said I did not have any information; what I said is I did not have detailed information to answer the questions that were asked of me. And, as you can see from the response I have given today, there is a great deal of detail there of specific figures and specific processes. I had some information but felt that it was inadequate information to answer the level of detail that was asked by the Hon. Rob Lucas.</text>
      </talker>
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