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  <name>Legislative Council</name>
  <date date="2011-07-26" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Second Parliament, First Session (52-1)</sessionName>
  <parliamentNum>52</parliamentNum>
  <sessionNum>1</sessionNum>
  <parliamentName>Parliament of South Australia</parliamentName>
  <house>Legislative Council</house>
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  <dateModified time="2022-08-06T14:30:00+00:00" />
  <proceeding continued="true">
    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Burnside Council</name>
      <text id="2011072618cb2b3b29ce466aa0000219">
        <heading>BURNSIDE COUNCIL</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="1819" kind="question">
        <name>The Hon. T.J. STEPHENS</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <questions>
          <question date="2011-07-26">
            <name>BURNSIDE COUNCIL</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2011-07-26T14:53:00" />
        <text id="2011072618cb2b3b29ce466aa0000220">
          <timeStamp time="2011-07-26T14:53:00" />
          <by role="member" id="1819">The Hon. T.J. STEPHENS (14:53):</by>  I seek leave to make a brief explanation before asking the Minister for State/Local Government Relations a question regarding the Burnside council.</text>
        <text id="2011072618cb2b3b29ce466aa0000221">Leave granted.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1819" kind="question" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. T.J. STEPHENS</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2011072618cb2b3b29ce466aa0000222">
          <by role="member" id="1819">The Hon. T.J. STEPHENS:</by>  On Thursday 7 July, in response to a question from the Hon. Robert Lucas regarding the Burnside council, the minister undertook to check whether any of the officers in his ministerial office had any communication with Labor lobbyist John Quirke, husband of former Burnside councillor Davina Quirke, about the inquiry by Mr MacPherson into the Burnside council. Accordingly, I ask: has the minister, or any officers in his ministerial office, had any communication with Labor lobbyist John Quirke, husband of former Burnside councillor Davina Quirke, about the inquiry by Mr MacPherson into the Burnside council?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3125" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. R.P. WORTLEY</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Industrial Relations</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for State/Local Government Relations</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <startTime time="2011-07-26T14:54:00" />
        <text id="2011072618cb2b3b29ce466aa0000223">
          <timeStamp time="2011-07-26T14:54:00" />
          <by role="member" id="3125">The Hon. R.P. WORTLEY (Minister for Industrial Relations, Minister for State/Local Government Relations) (14:54):</by>  I think it is important that we put this whole issue into a bit of perspective. As we all know, from 2006 there were complaints into the Burnside Council. There were also all sorts of allegations, many of which were referred to the Anti-Corruption Branch. The Anti-Corruption Branch went through these allegations and found no substance to them.</text>
        <text id="2011072618cb2b3b29ce466aa0000224">It was well known that the Burnside council was dysfunctional because of the actions of some of the councillors—not all, but some of the councillors. What happened in 2009 when the chief executive resigned—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1819" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. T.J. Stephens</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2011072618cb2b3b29ce466aa0000225">
          <by role="member" id="1819">The Hon. T.J. Stephens:</by>  It was a pretty simple question that I asked.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3125" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. R.P. WORTLEY</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2011072618cb2b3b29ce466aa0000226">
          <by role="member" id="3125">The Hon. R.P. WORTLEY:</by>  The minister then launched an investigation into the council. This council——</text>
        <text id="2011072618cb2b3b29ce466aa0000227">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="55">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3125" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. R.P. WORTLEY</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2011072618cb2b3b29ce466aa0000228">
          <by role="member" id="3125">The Hon. R.P. WORTLEY:</by>  You will get your answer, but I think we ought to put it in perspective, this whole issue.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="605" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. R.I. Lucas</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2011072618cb2b3b29ce466aa0000229">
          <by role="member" id="605">The Hon. R.I. Lucas:</by>  Is this worth $500 an hour?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1819" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. T.J. Stephens</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2011072618cb2b3b29ce466aa0000230">
          <by role="member" id="1819">The Hon. T.J. Stephens:</by>  Didn't Mr Aiston tell you to address the microphone?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="605" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. R.I. Lucas</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2011072618cb2b3b29ce466aa0000231">
          <by role="member" id="605">The Hon. R.I. Lucas:</by>  We want our money back!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1704">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2011072618cb2b3b29ce466aa0000232">
          <by role="member" id="1704">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Order! The Hon. Mr Lucas should go back and read some of his answers in <term>Hansard</term> when he was the treasurer.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3125">
        <name>The Hon. R.P. WORTLEY</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2011072618cb2b3b29ce466aa0000233">
          <by role="member" id="3125">The Hon. R.P. WORTLEY:</by>  What happened was that an inquiry that was to take 12 weeks is now entering its third year.</text>
        <text id="2011072618cb2b3b29ce466aa0000234">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="36">The Hon. R.I. Lucas interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3125">
        <name>The Hon. R.P. WORTLEY</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <page num="3456" />
        <text id="2011072618cb2b3b29ce466aa0000235">
          <by role="member" id="3125">The Hon. R.P. WORTLEY:</by>  Mr President, I am quite happy to talk for 32 minutes. I am quite happy to do that, and I will if I have to.</text>
        <text id="2011072618cb2b3b29ce466aa0000236">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="55">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1704">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2011072618cb2b3b29ce466aa0000237">
          <by role="member" id="1704">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3125">
        <name>The Hon. R.P. WORTLEY</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2011072618cb2b3b29ce466aa0000238">
          <by role="member" id="3125">The Hon. R.P. WORTLEY:</by>  Recently I became Minister for State/Local Government Relations and I was confronted with a Supreme Court judgement which determined that a number of the terms of reference were ruled invalid. What that meant was that it created quite a number of legal impediments to completing the report. I considered that I was not prepared to spend millions of dollars of taxpayers' money on a report that could take years to complete (if it ever was completed), so I made the decision to terminate the investigation.</text>
        <text id="2011072618cb2b3b29ce466aa0000239">I also wanted to assure the residents of Burnside that no allegations were going to be swept under the carpet, so I instructed the Crown Solicitor's Office to go through all the material and if there was any evidence of criminal activity to refer it to the DPP, bearing in mind that the DPP is an independent body; they can do whatever they want.</text>
        <text id="2011072618cb2b3b29ce466aa0000240">This is the course of action which is in the best interests of the ratepayers of Burnside and the taxpayers of South Australia. I, as minister, was not prepared to allow millions more dollars to be thrown down a black hole on an investigation that because of a legal—</text>
        <text id="2011072618cb2b3b29ce466aa0000241">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="55">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3125">
        <name>The Hon. R.P. WORTLEY</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2011072618cb2b3b29ce466aa0000242">
          <by role="member" id="3125">The Hon. R.P. WORTLEY:</by>  I will get to Quirky in a minute, but I will finish what I have to say.</text>
        <text id="2011072618cb2b3b29ce466aa0000243">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="55">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3125">
        <name>The Hon. R.P. WORTLEY</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2011072618cb2b3b29ce466aa0000244">
          <by role="member" id="3125">The Hon. R.P. WORTLEY:</by>  We now have a situation where the residents of Burnside can feel assured that if there are any allegations of criminality they will be referred to the DPP, an independent body which can then make a decision as to whether it wants to send any evidence off to the investigative body or not. In regard to John Quirke, I can assure you that neither myself nor my staff have had any contact with John Quirke over the Burnside issue.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="605" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. R.I. Lucas</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2011072618cb2b3b29ce466aa0000245">
          <by role="member" id="605">The Hon. R.I. Lucas:</by>  Why didn't you say that in the first place?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3125">
        <name>The Hon. R.P. WORTLEY</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2011072618cb2b3b29ce466aa0000246">
          <by role="member" id="3125">The Hon. R.P. WORTLEY:</by>  I wanted to lead up to a climax; I wanted to get to a climax!</text>
        <text id="2011072618cb2b3b29ce466aa0000247">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="55">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1704">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2011072618cb2b3b29ce466aa0000248">
          <by role="member" id="1704">The PRESIDENT:  </by>Order!</text>
        <text id="2011072618cb2b3b29ce466aa0000249">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="55">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1704">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2011072618cb2b3b29ce466aa0000250">
          <by role="member" id="1704">The PRESIDENT:</by>  Well, we have wasted a few more minutes of your question time; over to you.</text>
        <text id="2011072618cb2b3b29ce466aa0000251">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="55">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1704">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2011072618cb2b3b29ce466aa0000252">
          <by role="member" id="1704">The PRESIDENT:</by>  The honourable minister—</text>
        <text id="2011072618cb2b3b29ce466aa0000253">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="36">The Hon. R.I. Lucas interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1704">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2011072618cb2b3b29ce466aa0000254">
          <by role="member" id="1704">The PRESIDENT:</by>  The honourable minister Wortley has obviously been reading some of the Hon. Mr Lucas' old answers to questions, I think. The honourable minister.</text>
      </talker>
    </subject>
  </proceeding>
</hansard>