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  <name>Legislative Council</name>
  <date date="2009-10-14" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-First Parliament, Third Session (51-3)</sessionName>
  <parliamentNum>51</parliamentNum>
  <sessionNum>3</sessionNum>
  <parliamentName>Parliament of South Australia</parliamentName>
  <house>Legislative Council</house>
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  <proceeding>
    <name>Personal Explanation</name>
    <text id="200910147fb9a2979fb942a2a0000970">
      <heading>Personal Explanation</heading>
    </text>
    <subject>
      <name>Members' Remarks</name>
      <text id="200910147fb9a2979fb942a2a0000971">
        <heading>MEMBERS' REMARKS</heading>
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      <talker role="member" id="3122" kind="speech">
        <name>The Hon. I.K. HUNTER</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <startTime time="2009-10-14T22:05:00" />
        <text id="200910147fb9a2979fb942a2a0000972">
          <timeStamp time="2009-10-14T22:05:00" />
          <by role="member" id="3122">The Hon. I.K. HUNTER (22:05): </by> I seek leave to make a personal explanation.</text>
        <page num="3565" />
        <text id="200910147fb9a2979fb942a2a0000973">Leave granted.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="605" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. R.I. Lucas</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="200910147fb9a2979fb942a2a0000974">
          <by role="member" id="605">The Hon. R.I. Lucas:</by>  Do you claim to be misrepresented?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3122" kind="speech" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. I.K. HUNTER</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="200910147fb9a2979fb942a2a0000975">
          <by role="member" id="3122">The Hon. I.K. HUNTER: </by> I do. I claim to be misrepresented by the Hons Mr Lawson and Mr Lucas. During the debate on Order of the Day: Private Business No. 30, the Independent Commission Against Corruption Bill, I raised some questions of the mover about quorums, and the Hon. Mr Lawson chirped in with a scathing attack on my understanding of standing orders and caused me great personal hurt. He wounded me tremendously, because I have always been in awe of the Hon. Mr Lawson's wide knowledge of the law and the processes and procedures of this council. The Hon. Mr Lucas was giving him support and barracking from the sidelines. I am not sure whether that will be on the public record, but I would like it noted that he was certainly there attacking my credibility.</text>
        <text id="200910147fb9a2979fb942a2a0000976">I understand that the point the Hon. Mr Lawson was making about standing orders was, in fact, incorrect and that I am correct. The Hon. Mr Lawson was, in fact, referring to the standing orders applying to standing committees of this chamber, not to committees set up under joint standing orders. I refer to the standing orders at page 105, Joint Committees, and No. 3 states:</text>
        <text id="200910147fb9a2979fb942a2a0000977">
          <inserted>The number of Members appointed by each House shall be the same—</inserted>
        </text>
        <text continued="true" id="200910147fb9a2979fb942a2a0000978">not eight and three, but the same number. Further, referring to a quorum, No. 4 states:</text>
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          <inserted>Each House shall fix the Quorum of its Members—</inserted>
        </text>
        <text continued="true" id="200910147fb9a2979fb942a2a0000980">not the quorum of the committee, but the quorum of its members on the committee—</text>
        <text continued="true" id="200910147fb9a2979fb942a2a0000981">
          <inserted>necessary to be present at all sittings of the Committee; but, subject hereto, a Joint Committee may fix its own Quorum.</inserted>
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        <text continued="true" id="200910147fb9a2979fb942a2a0000982">I claim that I have been grossly misrepresented during that debate. I do not know what redress I have in the council, but I thought it important to make that plain and put it on the record.</text>
      </talker>
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