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  <name>Legislative Council</name>
  <date date="2009-09-23" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-First Parliament, Third Session (51-3)</sessionName>
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  <sessionNum>3</sessionNum>
  <parliamentName>Parliament of South Australia</parliamentName>
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    <name>Parliamentary Committees</name>
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      <heading>Parliamentary Committees</heading>
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    <subject>
      <name>Select Committee on Conduct by PIRSA in Fishing of Mud Cockles in Marine Scalefish and Lakes and Coorong Pipi Fisheries</name>
      <text id="20090923621eeccf32ff4951b0000697">
        <heading>SELECT COMMITTEE ON CONDUCT BY PIRSA IN FISHING OF MUD COCKLES IN MARINE SCALEFISH AND LAKES AND COORONG PIPI FISHERIES</heading>
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      <text id="20090923621eeccf32ff4951b0000698">Adjourned debate on motion of Hon. J.S.L. Dawkins (resumed on motion).</text>
      <text id="20090923621eeccf32ff4951b0000699">(Continued from page 3299.)</text>
      <talker role="member" id="3122" kind="speech">
        <name>The Hon. I.K. HUNTER</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <startTime time="2009-09-23T19:47:00" />
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          <timeStamp time="2009-09-23T19:47:00" />
          <by role="member" id="3122">The Hon. I.K. HUNTER (19:47):</by>  Without going back to <term>Hansard</term> to check, I think I opposed the setting up of this select committee. On reflection, I still believe it was unnecessary. The committee has not found any fault with PIRSA's or the minister's decisions. It has recommended the reinstatement of disallowed regulations and has made some other useful recommendations.</text>
        <page num="3307" />
        <text id="20090923621eeccf32ff4951b0000701">Having said that, I personally enjoyed working with my colleagues on this committee and our ability to work together as a group and arrive at a report we could all be happy about. I also enjoyed learning about an industry I knew nothing about previously. I do not pretend that our report and recommendations will be received with happiness by all sectors of the industry, but I believe that we gave a fair hearing to all those who wanted to raise their concerns with us.</text>
        <text id="20090923621eeccf32ff4951b0000702">If nothing else, perhaps this function justifies the select committee being established; that by doing so we allowed dissatisfied members of the industry to have their claims ventilated exhaustively once again. That we endorsed the departmental and ministerial decisions, however, really should be no surprise to anyone. They are, I believe—and the committee found—the fairest way to move forward, to quota management of a fishery under stress. I echo the thanks of the committee Chair (the Hon. Mr Dawkins) to the staff of the committee and to all those witnesses who assisted us with their evidence.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3128" kind="speech">
        <name>The Hon. A. BRESSINGTON</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <startTime time="2009-09-23T19:48:00" />
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          <timeStamp time="2009-09-23T19:48:00" />
          <by role="member" id="3128">The Hon. A. BRESSINGTON (19:48):</by>  I would like to thank the research officer, Geraldine Sladen, for the report she wrote. She did an excellent job and was very precise. I would also like to thank committee members: the Hons. Caroline Schaefer, Russell Wortley and Ian Hunter, and the Hon. John Dawkins as Chair.</text>
        <text id="20090923621eeccf32ff4951b0000704">As the Hon. Ian Hunter just indicated, we did work well together as a committee. I still do not agree that this inquiry was not necessary, and not just because I moved for that particular inquiry. Problems were aired from both sides of the fishery, and it is sad that it had to be divided into two sides. As the Hon. Ian Hunter said, it gave us an opportunity to learn more about that particular industry and how it works or does not work, as the case may be.</text>
        <text id="20090923621eeccf32ff4951b0000705">However, after sitting on this particular committee and on other committees, I have come to understand that select committee inquiries put constituents in a difficult situation, because they do not seem to understand the value of evidence or what evidence is and somehow believe that hearsay, gossip or innuendo constitutes solid evidence. One thing that I found difficult to reconcile in this inquiry was the fact that, on one side, we had a group of fishermen who, literally, were trying to claw back a quota system that was never going to be and it was not practical. We all came to the conclusion at the end of the inquiry that what they were seeking could not happen.</text>
        <text id="20090923621eeccf32ff4951b0000706">However, the evidence they provided was given to the best of their ability. These guys are average fishermen. It would have been like asking shearers in your day, Mr President, to appear before a select committee and present evidence about things that they did not believe were being done in a righteous fashion. Let us face it, fishermen do not walk around with cameras strapped to their back or with notebooks, and they do not get people to witness what they have seen and they do not think to take notes of what they are seeing.</text>
        <text id="20090923621eeccf32ff4951b0000707">Perhaps one side was a little disadvantaged in that they could not afford to hire a temporary CEO to plead their case, whereas the other side was able to do that. I think that put them at a great disadvantage. I am not saying that that changed the evidence that we received, but I believe it certainly tipped the scales in favour of that side. The Hon. Ian Hunter said that we found no fault with PIRSA. Although we did not necessarily find fault with PIRSA, I think the committee believes that the recommendations it made will perhaps improve the process in the future for any other areas of the fishery that need to go to quota.</text>
        <text id="20090923621eeccf32ff4951b0000708">The two most relevant recommendations for me were, first, the recommendation for PIRSA to conduct a full audit prior to going to a quota system to verify catch and effort data, because, even to the end of the inquiry, there were allegations that were neither proven nor disproven, but one particular person from one of the groups had faced court for that and similar charges. It was not necessarily disproven that those allegations did not have any foundation at all. Secondly, the recommendation to prohibit off-beach grading. That did not come about simply because there was no evidence that the off-beach grading was being done in a proper manner.</text>
        <page num="3308" />
        <text id="20090923621eeccf32ff4951b0000709">In my view, it all gets down to the fact that PIRSA has a huge task to do and it works in a difficult area. As the Hon. Caroline Schaefer said, there will always be winners and losers when we go to quota. That is a sad thing, but it is a reality. I also think that some of the recommendations may help PIRSA to improve its consultation methods and communication level with the people of that industry. I also concur with the Hon. Caroline Schaefer that it was not necessarily true that inside information was leaked about going to quota: it was probably a case of some people choosing to read the documentation and letters that were sent out and others did not. All in all, I believe that it has been a valuable exercise and, if the seven recommendations are taken up, it will be a step towards helping to make that transition from open slather to quota a little easier both for PIRSA and the people involved in the fishery.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="599" kind="speech">
        <name>The Hon. J.S.L. DAWKINS</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <startTime time="2009-09-23T19:54:00" />
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          <timeStamp time="2009-09-23T19:54:00" />
          <by role="member" id="599">The Hon. J.S.L. DAWKINS (19:54): </by> I thank my colleagues the Hons Caroline Schaefer, Ian Hunter and Ann Bressington for their remarks. I remind the council that it was a unanimous decision in the report. As I said when moving the motion, I hope the industry can move forward in a more unified manner for the benefit of the whole state. Those of us on the committee can see the benefit for the state in that industry.</text>
        <text id="20090923621eeccf32ff4951b0000711">We have recommended a role for PIRSA in trying to ensure that happens. I do not think any of us believe that will be easy, but certainly that is something in which we all believe. Once again, I thank all members of the committee for making my job as chairman relatively easy. We did take a lot of evidence from a lot of different people and, as my colleagues have said, we know a lot more about this important industry than we did at the start. In closing, I reiterate the valuable role played by our secretary Guy Dickson and research officer Geraldine Sladden. I commend the report to the council.</text>
        <text id="20090923621eeccf32ff4951b0000712">Motion carried.</text>
      </talker>
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