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  <name>Legislative Council</name>
  <date date="2008-11-25" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-First Parliament, Third Session (51-3)</sessionName>
  <parliamentNum>51</parliamentNum>
  <sessionNum>3</sessionNum>
  <parliamentName>Parliament of South Australia</parliamentName>
  <house>Legislative Council</house>
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  <proceeding continued="true">
    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>APY Lands</name>
      <text id="2008112559e31f6ac726437090000180">
        <heading>APY LANDS</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="question">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <questions>
          <question date="2008-11-25">
            <name>APY LANDS</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2008-11-25T14:45:00" />
        <text id="2008112559e31f6ac726437090000181">
          <timeStamp time="2008-11-25T14:45:00" />
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE (14:45): </by> I seek leave to make a brief explanation before asking the Minister for Road Safety a question about roads on the APY lands.</text>
        <text id="2008112559e31f6ac726437090000182">Leave granted.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3164" kind="question" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.G. WADE</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2008112559e31f6ac726437090000183">
          <by role="member" id="3164">The Hon. S.G. WADE: </by> The opposition has recently been highlighting the neglect of road maintenance under this government and the impact on road safety. My question today relates to the road safety of one of the most vulnerable communities in this state. The road accident fatality rate amongst people living in the Anangu Pitjantjatjara Yankunytjatjara lands is three times that of other South Australians. The road network within the APY lands is around 4,000 kilometres, of which less than 20 per cent is sealed, formed or sheeted.</text>
        <text id="2008112559e31f6ac726437090000184">In June 2007, the Department for Transport, Energy and Infrastructure took over the management of the upgrade and maintenance of roads in the APY lands. The total funding for routine and periodic maintenance, together with upgrading work for the current financial year, amounts to $639,609. The current funding represents:</text>
        <text id="2008112559e31f6ac726437090000185">
          <item sublevel="1" bullet="true">a 57 per cent decrease in the funding compared to the 2005-06 financial year;</item>
        </text>
        <text id="2008112559e31f6ac726437090000186">
          <item sublevel="1" bullet="true">the current funding represents merely a tenth of the level of funding estimated by a 2006 consultant's report; and</item>
        </text>
        <text id="2008112559e31f6ac726437090000187">
          <item sublevel="1" bullet="true">merely a third of the level of funding sought from the Aboriginal unit within the Premier's department in the 2008-09 budget process.</item>
        </text>
        <page num="774" />
        <text continued="true" id="2008112559e31f6ac726437090000188">The opposition has been advised that the condition of the roads in the APY lands has become so bad that routine patrol grading is now taking up to 13 passes on some sections of the roads compared with seven to nine passes expected on a formed and sheeted unsealed road. My questions to the minister are:</text>
        <text id="2008112559e31f6ac726437090000189">1.&amp;#x9;What is the level of road death and injury amongst Aboriginal South Australians?</text>
        <text id="2008112559e31f6ac726437090000190">2.&amp;#x9;What is the government doing to bring down this rate?</text>
        <text id="2008112559e31f6ac726437090000191">3.&amp;#x9;In particular, when will the government address the backlog in road maintenance on the APY lands?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="629" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. CARMEL ZOLLO</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <electorate id="">Minister for Correctional Services, Minister for Road Safety, Minister for Gambling, Minister Assisting the Minister for Multicultural Affairs</electorate>
        <startTime time="2008-11-25T14:47:00" />
        <text id="2008112559e31f6ac726437090000192">
          <timeStamp time="2008-11-25T14:47:00" />
          <by role="member" id="629">The Hon. CARMEL ZOLLO (Minister for Correctional Services, Minister for Road Safety, Minister for Gambling, Minister Assisting the Minister for Multicultural Affairs) (14:47): </by> I thank the honourable member for his question in relation to road safety. In relation to road safety on the APY lands in particular, and the issues in relation to the APY lands, I think it is very much hypocritical of those opposite even to suggest that this government has taken no action. Clearly, this government has addressed so many issues on the APY lands.</text>
        <text id="2008112559e31f6ac726437090000193">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="25">The Hon. P. Holloway interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="629" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. CARMEL ZOLLO</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2008112559e31f6ac726437090000194">
          <by role="member" id="629">The Hon. CARMEL ZOLLO: </by> As my colleague the Hon. Paul Holloway said, those opposite did not even have any police officers there. Yes, clearly a body of work is to be undertaken; and this government has shown the way and undertaken that body of work. It is very easy for the honourable member to throw around statistics such as that—'cheap shots', I think is probably a good way of describing it. I am advised that in this financial—</text>
        <text id="2008112559e31f6ac726437090000195">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="62">The Hon. S.G. Wade interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="629" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. CARMEL ZOLLO</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2008112559e31f6ac726437090000196">
          <by role="member" id="629">The Hon. CARMEL ZOLLO: </by> What?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="574" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. P. Holloway</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2008112559e31f6ac726437090000197">
          <by role="member" id="574">The Hon. P. Holloway: </by> He asks the question and answers it himself!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="629" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. CARMEL ZOLLO</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2008112559e31f6ac726437090000198">
          <by role="member" id="629">The Hon. CARMEL ZOLLO: </by> He answered it himself; precisely.</text>
        <text id="2008112559e31f6ac726437090000199">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="55">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1704">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2008112559e31f6ac726437090000200">
          <by role="member" id="1704">The PRESIDENT:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="629">
        <name>The Hon. CARMEL ZOLLO</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2008112559e31f6ac726437090000201">
          <by role="member" id="629">The Hon. CARMEL ZOLLO: </by> The state government will spend $267.8 million this financial year alone on road maintenance, road rehabilitation, resurfacing and other road investment—nearly double, I am advised, what the Liberal government's road transport investment was in 2001-02. In relation to our Aboriginal community—</text>
        <text id="2008112559e31f6ac726437090000202">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="55">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1704">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2008112559e31f6ac726437090000203">
          <by role="member" id="1704">The PRESIDENT:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="629">
        <name>The Hon. CARMEL ZOLLO</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2008112559e31f6ac726437090000204">
          <by role="member" id="629">The Hon. CARMEL ZOLLO: </by> —clearly there are some special needs in relation to licensing, in particular. It is something on which I know the Road Safety Advisory Council has been working, and—</text>
        <text id="2008112559e31f6ac726437090000205">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="55">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1704">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2008112559e31f6ac726437090000206">
          <by role="member" id="1704">The PRESIDENT:  </by>Order! The minister will resume her seat.</text>
        <text id="2008112559e31f6ac726437090000207">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="55">An honourable member interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1704">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2008112559e31f6ac726437090000208">
          <by role="member" id="1704">The PRESIDENT:</by>  No. I told the minister to sit down until you came to order, and still you have not come to order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="629">
        <name>The Hon. CARMEL ZOLLO</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2008112559e31f6ac726437090000209">
          <by role="member" id="629">The Hon. CARMEL ZOLLO:</by>  As I was saying, with respect to this government's commitment to road maintenance and road safety, clearly, the figures I have just put on the record speak for themselves. As I said, the hypocrisy of those opposite to suggest that this government does not care about the wellbeing of those on the APY lands really is astounding.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1820" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. D.W. Ridgway</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2008112559e31f6ac726437090000210">
          <by role="member" id="1820">The Hon. D.W. Ridgway:</by>  When were you up there last?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="629">
        <name>The Hon. CARMEL ZOLLO</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2008112559e31f6ac726437090000211">
          <by role="member" id="629">The Hon. CARMEL ZOLLO:</by>  Well, I was up there, actually, about a year or so ago.</text>
        <text id="2008112559e31f6ac726437090000212">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="52">The Hon. D.W. Ridgway interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="629">
        <name>The Hon. CARMEL ZOLLO</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2008112559e31f6ac726437090000213">
          <by role="member" id="629">The Hon. CARMEL ZOLLO:</by>  Yes, I have. Why would I not go up there?</text>
        <text id="2008112559e31f6ac726437090000214">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="55">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1704">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2008112559e31f6ac726437090000215">
          <by role="member" id="1704">The PRESIDENT:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="629">
        <name>The Hon. CARMEL ZOLLO</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="2008112559e31f6ac726437090000216">
          <by role="member" id="629">The Hon. CARMEL ZOLLO:</by>  I place on record that I have been to the APY lands and, like everyone else, I appreciate the many challenges that face those who live on the lands. Clearly, there are different challenges facing the Aboriginal community, particularly in relation to youth in terms of licensing. The government will always work with those government officials already on the lands to ensure that those young people on the lands have just as much of an opportunity to obtain their licence as anyone else. Obviously, there are reasons for the statistics quoted by the honourable member in relation to the behaviour of some of the people who live on the lands. Again, in relation to how much we spend, I have already placed that information on the record. We will continue to work with the communities to ensure that we do see road safety improvements on the APY lands.</text>
      </talker>
    </subject>
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