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  <name>Legislative Council</name>
  <date date="2008-11-12" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-First Parliament, Third Session (51-3)</sessionName>
  <parliamentNum>51</parliamentNum>
  <sessionNum>3</sessionNum>
  <parliamentName>Parliament of South Australia</parliamentName>
  <house>Legislative Council</house>
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  <proceeding continued="true">
    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Spent Convictions</name>
      <text id="200811124a99b503d61a427cb0000205">
        <heading>SPENT CONVICTIONS</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="603" kind="question">
        <name>The Hon. R.D. LAWSON</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <questions>
          <question date="2008-11-12">
            <name>SPENT CONVICTIONS</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2008-11-12T15:30:00" />
        <text id="200811124a99b503d61a427cb0000206">
          <timeStamp time="2008-11-12T15:30:00" />
          <by role="member" id="603">The Hon. R.D. LAWSON (15:30): </by> I seek leave to make a brief explanation before asking the minister representing the Attorney-General a question on the subject of spent convictions legislation.</text>
        <text id="200811124a99b503d61a427cb0000207">Leave granted.</text>
      </talker>
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        <name>The Hon. R.D. LAWSON</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <page num="616" />
        <text id="200811124a99b503d61a427cb0000208">
          <by role="member" id="603">The Hon. R.D. LAWSON: </by> Members will be aware that in another place the Hon. Bob Such has, over the years, introduced a number of bills for the introduction into South Australia of spent convictions legislation, and he has strongly advocated for that form of legislation in parliament and elsewhere. He introduced a bill in 2003, and I note that on 9 May 2003—at about 11 minutes past 11 in the evening—the Attorney-General (in one of his then regular conversations with Bob Francis on Radio FIVEaa) expressed a view that appeared to be sympathetic to that of the former attorney-general, Trevor Griffin. He said:</text>
        <text id="200811124a99b503d61a427cb0000209">
          <inserted>Trevor quite rightly said that if we introduce such a system it would be a system of organised lying…whereby the government would deny that people had convictions when they did…</inserted>
        </text>
        <text continued="true" id="200811124a99b503d61a427cb0000210">So, in May 2003, the Attorney-General was expressing views that were somewhat antipathetic to spent convictions legislation. In the first half of 2004, the Hon. Dr Such introduced yet another bill and the Attorney-General responded (once again, appearing on radio, including Bob Francis' show) by expressing some reservation but also expressing sympathy for the proposition that such legislation be introduced. He said:</text>
        <text id="200811124a99b503d61a427cb0000211">
          <inserted>…when I became Attorney-General…I found out that if you go to court and you are found guilty of a minor offence and then the magistrate says, 'You've been a good straight person all your life and this is comparatively trivial offending, what I will do is I will find you guilty, but no conviction recorded'…people leave the court and they think, 'Good, I'm over that,' but in fact it does go on your record.</inserted>
        </text>
        <text continued="true" id="200811124a99b503d61a427cb0000212">Then the Attorney says, 'That does not seem fair to me.' That was the position he expressed in 2004 arising out of what he had learnt since he became Attorney-General. In other statements he said that he was aware, in the years when he was minister of consumer affairs, of the case of a man seeking a licence. He had been convicted of carnal knowledge some 40 years ago and was not eligible for the particular licence by reason of that conviction, which was still on his record.</text>
        <text id="200811124a99b503d61a427cb0000213">In the first half of 2004, the Hon. Bob Such introduced yet another bill and the Attorney-General issued a discussion paper saying that he was seeking views by 30 June 2004—now four years ago.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1704">
        <name>The President</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="200811124a99b503d61a427cb0000214">
          <by role="member" id="1704">The PRESIDENT:</by>  The honourable member will complete his question.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="603">
        <name>The Hon. R.D. LAWSON</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="200811124a99b503d61a427cb0000215">
          <by role="member" id="603">The Hon. R.D. LAWSON: </by> Yes, sir. That was issued four years ago and yet no legislation has been produced. In the same year, the Attorney-General told Andrew Rimer's program, on Radio FIVEaa, at three minutes past midnight, that South Australia Police already operate a system whereby administratively, if employers are looking for a criminal record in respect of a potential employee, if the conviction is more than 10 years old and it is not relevant, it will not be released. That is a sensible thing, he said, for the police to do. My questions are:</text>
        <text id="200811124a99b503d61a427cb0000216">1.&amp;#x9;When will the government introduce legislation which the Attorney-General has been suggesting he will introduce (and expressing sympathy for those who are the victims of the absence of this legislation)?</text>
        <text id="200811124a99b503d61a427cb0000217">2.&amp;#x9;What is the justification for the government's delay in introducing legislation at this time?</text>
        <text id="200811124a99b503d61a427cb0000218">3.&amp;#x9;Has the practice which the Attorney-General referred to in May of 2004 (whereby the police informally operate a system of expunging criminal records about employees) persisted, and what is the justification for it?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="574" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. P. HOLLOWAY</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <electorate id="">Minister for Mineral Resources Development, Minister for Urban Development and Planning, Minister for Small Business</electorate>
        <startTime time="2008-11-12T15:35:00" />
        <text id="200811124a99b503d61a427cb0000219">
          <timeStamp time="2008-11-12T15:35:00" />
          <by role="member" id="574">The Hon. P. HOLLOWAY (Minister for Mineral Resources Development, Minister for Urban Development and Planning, Minister for Small Business) (15:35):</by>  I thank the honourable member for his detailed questions, which I will refer to my colleague in another place.</text>
      </talker>
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