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  <name>Legislative Council</name>
  <date date="2008-07-24" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-First Parliament, Second Session (51-2)</sessionName>
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  <sessionNum>2</sessionNum>
  <parliamentName>Parliament of South Australia</parliamentName>
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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Aspen Group</name>
      <text id="20080724401aed69681c4db7a0000356">
        <heading>ASPEN GROUP</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="605" kind="question">
        <name>The Hon. R.I. LUCAS</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <questions>
          <question date="2008-07-24">
            <name>ASPEN GROUP</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2008-07-24T14:58:00" />
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          <by role="member" id="605">The Hon. R.I. LUCAS (14:58): </by> I seek leave to make an explanation before asking the Leader of the Government a question about the Aspen Group development.</text>
        <text id="20080724401aed69681c4db7a0000358">Leave granted.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="605" kind="question" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. R.I. LUCAS</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20080724401aed69681c4db7a0000359">
          <by role="member" id="605">The Hon. R.I. LUCAS: </by> Reported on 12 July this year was the following statement in respect of the minister:</text>
        <text id="20080724401aed69681c4db7a0000360">
          <inserted>Minister for Urban Development and Planning Paul Holloway today described as intolerable the Adelaide City Council's rejection of the Aspen Group's proposed office tower in Franklin Street. Mr Holloway says he is urgently formulating a response to take to Cabinet next week to ensure that the development assessment process in the Adelaide CBD is no longer blatantly politicised. 'The position adopted by the Adelaide City Council's Development Assessment Panel flies in the face of the planning reforms initiated by this government,' Mr Holloway says.</inserted>
        </text>
        <text continued="true" id="20080724401aed69681c4db7a0000361">Just two days after that, on the Monday, but reported on the Tuesday in <term>The Advertiser</term> of 15 July, was this statement:</text>
        <text id="20080724401aed69681c4db7a0000362">
          <inserted>Adelaide City Council has been stripped of planning powers for projects costing more than $10 million, unlocking an expected surge of city development.</inserted>
        </text>
        <text continued="true" id="20080724401aed69681c4db7a0000363">A press statement dated 14 July under the heading of Mike Rann, entitled 'Government restores independence to city planning', which was actually a press statement by infrastructure minister Patrick Conlon, stated:</text>
        <text id="20080724401aed69681c4db7a0000364">
          <inserted>Infrastructure minister Patrick Conlon today announced any application for a development project within the Adelaide City Council area that exceeds $10 million will now be assessed by the independent Development Assessment Commission.</inserted>
        </text>
        <text continued="true" id="20080724401aed69681c4db7a0000365">Further on in his statement minister Conlon said:</text>
        <text id="20080724401aed69681c4db7a0000366">
          <inserted>State cabinet's decision this morning, which is to be achieved through a regulatory change to be gazetted this week, is entirely consistent with the recommendations on State Significant Development made by the recently published Planning Review.</inserted>
        </text>
        <text continued="true" id="20080724401aed69681c4db7a0000367">When doing media interviews, minister Conlon, who was handling this issue at that stage, said:</text>
        <text id="20080724401aed69681c4db7a0000368">
          <inserted>However, Mr Conlon said the council's decision had not influenced yesterday's announcement—</inserted>
        </text>
        <text continued="true" id="20080724401aed69681c4db7a0000369">that is, the announcement made by cabinet—</text>
        <text continued="true" id="20080724401aed69681c4db7a0000370">
          <inserted>This proposal has been around for a long time, although you have to think about what has happened in recent times.</inserted>
        </text>
        <text continued="true" id="20080724401aed69681c4db7a0000371">I contrast Mr Conlon, claiming on the Monday that cabinet's decision had not been influenced at all by the city council's rejection of the Aspen Group's development, with minister Holloway stating on Friday that it was intolerable and he was going to take a submission to cabinet on the Monday to sort this particular issue out. My questions are:</text>
        <text id="20080724401aed69681c4db7a0000372">1.&amp;#x9;Did minister Holloway receive any legal advice or planning advice that warned him against indicating that cabinet was going to change policy in this area to impact on a specific development, that is, the Aspen development?</text>
        <text id="20080724401aed69681c4db7a0000373">2.&amp;#x9;Why did minister Conlon announce the cabinet decision on the Monday, rather than minister Holloway, who has responsibility in the area and who had indicated that he was going to take the submission to cabinet?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="574" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. P. HOLLOWAY</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <electorate id="">Minister for Mineral Resources Development, Minister for Urban Development and Planning, Minister for Small Business</electorate>
        <startTime time="2008-07-24T15:01:00" />
        <page num="3687" />
        <text id="20080724401aed69681c4db7a0000374">
          <timeStamp time="2008-07-24T15:01:00" />
          <by role="member" id="574">The Hon. P. HOLLOWAY (Minister for Mineral Resources Development, Minister for Urban Development and Planning, Minister for Small Business) (15:01):</by>  In relation to the second question, it is quite simple. I took the submission to cabinet but I left at about lunch time that day to go over to the ministerial council, which was a follow-up meeting. As the Minister for Police, I was South Australia's representative in relation to alcohol abuse. Minister Conlon was familiar with the development—as I have indicated earlier in relation to a virtually identical question that the former leader asked me several days ago—because the Office of Infrastructure was responsible for the early promotion, if I can use that word, of the particular redevelopment proposal for the post office square. Minister Conlon provided the answer: simply because I was not available to do it,  as I was on a plane. Relating to the first part of the question, I am not really sure what the answer is. Certainly, I have not sought any specific legal advice in relation to—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="605" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. R.I. Lucas</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20080724401aed69681c4db7a0000375">
          <by role="member" id="605">The Hon. R.I. Lucas:</by>  No; generally.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="574" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. P. HOLLOWAY</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20080724401aed69681c4db7a0000376">
          <by role="member" id="574">The Hon. P. HOLLOWAY:</by>  In relation to what? The Hon. Rob Lucas asks all these questions about specifics; they are a sort of entanglement—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="605" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. R.I. Lucas</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20080724401aed69681c4db7a0000377">
          <by role="member" id="605">The Hon. R.I. Lucas:</by>  Because I know what is happening.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="574" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. P. HOLLOWAY</name>
        <house>Legislative Council</house>
        <text id="20080724401aed69681c4db7a0000378">
          <by role="member" id="574">The Hon. P. HOLLOWAY:</by>  Well, he does not know what happened; he is fishing. If the Hon. Rob Lucas wishes to ask me a specific question I will answer it, but I am not going to respond to this sort of innuendo. I know what he is like. I have been in this place long enough to know the sorts of questions that the Hon. Rob Lucas asks. If he asked me a straightforward question, he would get a straightforward answer.</text>
      </talker>
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