House of Assembly Fifty-Fifth Parliament, First Session (55-1) 55 1 Parliament of South Australia House of Assembly published Question Time Hydrogen Plant Hydrogen Plant Mr PATTERSON House of Assembly Morphett Hydrogen Plant Mr PATTERSON (Morphett) (14:37): My question— Members interjecting: Mr PATTERSON House of Assembly Morphett Mr PATTERSON: Don't worry; hold on, I've got plenty. I want to get them in order. My question is to the Minister for Energy and Mining this time. How many B-doubles per day will be required to truck in gas to the hydrogen plant? The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS House of Assembly West Torrens Minister for Infrastructure and Transport Minister for Energy and Mining The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS (West Torrens—Minister for Infrastructure and Transport, Minister for Energy and Mining) (14:37): I have never met an opposition that is more confused about its identity than the one sitting opposite. Either they are a pro-gas, pro-energy— The Hon. S.E. Close House of Assembly Port Adelaide Deputy Premier Minister for Industry, Innovation and Science Minister for Climate, Environment and Water Minister for Workforce and Population Strategy The Hon. S.E. Close: Pro-nuclear. The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS House of Assembly West Torrens Minister for Infrastructure and Transport Minister for Energy and Mining The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS: —pro-nuclear, pro-coal-fired power, pro-anything that emits carbon into the atmosphere party, or they are not. I have to say, despite all the interjections, I saw the social media page of the SA Liberal Party boasting about deferring a piece of legislation in the upper house that would keep thermal generation in the National Electricity Market longer—about deferring that and then boasting about it—and now today complaining about diesel. I have to say the identity of the Liberal Party is— Mr TEAGUE House of Assembly Heysen Mr TEAGUE: Point of order. The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS House of Assembly West Torrens Minister for Infrastructure and Transport Minister for Energy and Mining The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS: It's the KC. The Speaker House of Assembly The SPEAKER: The member for Heysen with a point of order. Mr TEAGUE House of Assembly Heysen Mr TEAGUE: Standing order 98: he is debating the point. It's a simple question: how many trucks— Members interjecting: The Speaker House of Assembly The SPEAKER: Members on my right! Mr TEAGUE House of Assembly Heysen Mr TEAGUE: It might be single digits, double digits. The Speaker House of Assembly The SPEAKER: Sorry, member for Heysen. I call members on my right to order. I can't hear the member for Heysen with his point of order. The member for Heysen, you will be heard in silence. Mr TEAGUE House of Assembly Heysen Mr TEAGUE: Standing order 98: the minister is debating it. It's a simple question. He should answer it. The Speaker House of Assembly The SPEAKER: Minister, come back to the point, thank you. The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS House of Assembly West Torrens Minister for Infrastructure and Transport Minister for Energy and Mining The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS: If he can't convince his peers, how can he convince us? The number of B-doubles that will be required will depend in turn on how much gas availability will be in the lateral from Pirie across to Whyalla. That is to be determined. We are in the market for procurement. We believe that gas startup is important. It also gives us a bit of redundancy. The great thing about the generators that we bought from General Electric is that these generators operate on gas and hydrogen—100 per cent gas or 100 per cent hydrogen or a blend. That is the great thing about aeroderivative generators and the technology that General Electric has. I know it is a foreign concept to members opposite: freight moves using trucks, trucks use diesel, freight is not a dirty word. Mr Patterson House of Assembly Morphett Mr Patterson: Supplementary, sir. The Speaker House of Assembly The SPEAKER: We will see if it is a supplementary.