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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Port Augusta Declared Public Precinct</name>
      <text id="202411148061b40f23aa402a90000562">
        <heading>Port Augusta Declared Public Precinct</heading>
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      <talker role="member" id="5381" referenceid="a67795d8a9734f88b14c11a0318b3b0c" kind="question">
        <name>Mr TEAGUE</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Heysen</electorate>
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          <question date="2024-11-14T00:30:00+10:30">
            <name>Port Augusta Declared Public Precinct</name>
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        <startTime time="2024-11-14T14:58:20+10:30" />
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          <by role="member" id="5381" referenceid="a67795d8a9734f88b14c11a0318b3b0c">Mr TEAGUE (Heysen) (14:58):</by>  My question is to the Deputy Premier. Does the Deputy Premier agree with Adnyamathanha elder Uncle Charles Jackson. With your leave, sir, and that of the house, I will explain.</text>
        <text id="202411148061b40f23aa402a90000564">Leave granted.</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">West Torrens</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Infrastructure and Transport</name>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Energy and Mining</name>
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          <by role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Point of order, sir. How can a question be in order without the explanation? Because the house must give leave to make the question in any way intelligible, so surely it can't be in order.</text>
        <text id="202411148061b40f23aa402a90000566">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
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      <talker role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">West Torrens</electorate>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Infrastructure and Transport</name>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Energy and Mining</name>
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        <text id="202411148061b40f23aa402a90000567">
          <by role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  I am asking the question.</text>
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        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202411148061b40f23aa402a90000568">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Are you saying you don't want leave for a personal explanation?</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">West Torrens</electorate>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Infrastructure and Transport</name>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Energy and Mining</name>
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          <by role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Without the house granting a member leave, the question is not understandable.</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="4343" referenceid="98bc9886f8ef4f70897848c1d1c59c00">
        <name>The Hon. J.A.W. GARDNER</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Morialta</electorate>
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            <name>Deputy Leader of the Opposition</name>
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          <by role="member" id="4343" referenceid="98bc9886f8ef4f70897848c1d1c59c00">The Hon. J.A.W. GARDNER:</by>  On the point of order, sir.</text>
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        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
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          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Yes, deputy leader.</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="4343" referenceid="98bc9886f8ef4f70897848c1d1c59c00">
        <name>The Hon. J.A.W. GARDNER</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Morialta</electorate>
        <portfolios>
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            <name>Deputy Leader of the Opposition</name>
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          <by role="member" id="4343" referenceid="98bc9886f8ef4f70897848c1d1c59c00">The Hon. J.A.W. GARDNER:</by>  It is entirely orthodox to frame questions in such a way otherwise we wouldn't need explanations.</text>
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        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202411148061b40f23aa402a90000573">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The government can say no to—</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">West Torrens</electorate>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Infrastructure and Transport</name>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Energy and Mining</name>
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          <by role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  We won't refuse leave.</text>
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        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202411148061b40f23aa402a90000575">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  We might see where the explanation goes and see if it pads out the context of the question, the substance of the question, because I agree there was no reference to a particular quote.</text>
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        <name>Mr TEAGUE</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Heysen</electorate>
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          <by role="member" id="5381" referenceid="a67795d8a9734f88b14c11a0318b3b0c">Mr TEAGUE:</by>  South Australia's Senior Australian of the Year and Adnyamathanha elder, Uncle Charles Jackson, says the government's declared public precinct in Port Augusta disproportionately impacts First Nations people. In the ABC news report this morning he says:</text>
        <text id="202411148061b40f23aa402a90000577">
          <inserted>It's not targeted to every individual in Port Augusta, it's directed at the First Nations people, and in particular people coming from remote communities into Port Augusta...but they're not dealing with the core problem of it.</inserted>
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      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4622" referenceid="aa45c8bc1b33484c8becbf1c17397e74" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. S.E. CLOSE</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Port Adelaide</electorate>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Deputy Premier</name>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Industry, Innovation and Science</name>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Climate, Environment and Water</name>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Workforce and Population Strategy</name>
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        <startTime time="2024-11-14T15:00:07+10:30" />
        <text id="202411148061b40f23aa402a90000578">
          <timeStamp time="2024-11-14T15:00:07+10:30" />
          <by role="member" id="4622" referenceid="aa45c8bc1b33484c8becbf1c17397e74">The Hon. S.E. CLOSE (Port Adelaide—Deputy Premier, Minister for Industry, Innovation and Science, Minister for Climate, Environment and Water, Minister for Workforce and Population Strategy) (15:00):</by>  A number of people have advice to give on this one and so we have all been eager to answer, but the question was directed to me. I listened with great interest to what the South Australian Senior Australian of the Year had to say, and I completely understand why anyone, and an Aboriginal elder in particular of such distinguished record, would be concerned about any disproportionate impact on one community.</text>
        <page num="10348" />
        <text id="202411148061b40f23aa402a90000579">A disproportionate impact is not the same thing, though, as a law or a regime only applying to one group of people. Aboriginal people are, sadly, disproportionately represented in the criminal justice system, for example. It is a mark of disadvantage and of the circumstances in which too many Aboriginal people find themselves.</text>
        <text id="202411148061b40f23aa402a90000580">I thought that the response that was given by the Hon. Kyam Maher, the Attorney-General from the other place, this morning on radio was a very thoughtful one in terms of appreciating why one might express and feel that way, but nonetheless acknowledging that the policy is not specifically targeted at any one group of people. Indeed, there are a number of programs that are being established specifically for Aboriginal people, such as return to country to be able to go back to the lands, to facilitate that for where people are seeking that assistance. That will help alleviate the conditions in which some people find themselves, which then becomes caught up in the social dislocation that we are seeing in that town.</text>
      </talker>
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