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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Country Fire Service</name>
      <text id="202405029d5d618c9ef2401280000453">
        <heading>Country Fire Service</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="3120" referenceid="e8aa83ccffa94be0a00ef51416f9797c" kind="question">
        <name>Mr PEDERICK</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Hammond</electorate>
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          <question date="2024-05-02T01:30:00+09:30">
            <name>Country Fire Service</name>
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        <startTime time="2024-05-02T14:53:43+09:30" />
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          <by role="member" id="3120" referenceid="e8aa83ccffa94be0a00ef51416f9797c">Mr PEDERICK (Hammond) (14:53):</by>  Supplementary: will the minister commit to publicly releasing any recommendations arising from the examination?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5382" referenceid="a772f8900bee436db277192229c352bf" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. D.R. CREGAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Kavel</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Police, Emergency Services and Correctional Services</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Special Minister of State</name>
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          <question date="2024-05-02T01:30:00+09:30">
            <name>Country Fire Service</name>
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        <startTime time="2024-05-02T14:53:51+09:30" />
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          <by role="member" id="5382" referenceid="a772f8900bee436db277192229c352bf">The Hon. D.R. CREGAN (Kavel—Minister for Police, Emergency Services and Correctional Services, Special Minister of State) (14:53):</by>  What I can commit to is to doing what you didn't do, and that is—</text>
        <text id="202405029d5d618c9ef2401280000456">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="3120" referenceid="e8aa83ccffa94be0a00ef51416f9797c">Mr Pederick interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5382" referenceid="a772f8900bee436db277192229c352bf" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.R. CREGAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Kavel</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Police, Emergency Services and Correctional Services</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Special Minister of State</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <text id="202405029d5d618c9ef2401280000457">
          <by role="member" id="5382" referenceid="a772f8900bee436db277192229c352bf">The Hon. D.R. CREGAN:</by>  Listen, you had four years to do it. You are a volunteer. You are a volunteer, and you had four years to fix it, and what did you do? Nothing—absolutely nothing.</text>
        <text id="202405029d5d618c9ef2401280000458">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202405029d5d618c9ef2401280000459">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Hammond—</text>
        <text id="202405029d5d618c9ef2401280000460">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202405029d5d618c9ef2401280000461">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Hammond, you are warned.</text>
        <text id="202405029d5d618c9ef2401280000462">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5382" referenceid="a772f8900bee436db277192229c352bf" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.R. CREGAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Kavel</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Police, Emergency Services and Correctional Services</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Special Minister of State</name>
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          <by role="member" id="5382" referenceid="a772f8900bee436db277192229c352bf">The Hon. D.R. CREGAN:</by>  You're quibbling with the dress sense of other members of parliament. That's how seriously you take this issue.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="6888" referenceid="1b23b655d40349f8a472b7b9eeba16df" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Telfer</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Flinders</electorate>
        <text id="202405029d5d618c9ef2401280000464">
          <by role="member" id="6888" referenceid="1b23b655d40349f8a472b7b9eeba16df">Mr Telfer:</by>  Do you seriously think anyone thinks you're a smart actor in this?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5382" referenceid="a772f8900bee436db277192229c352bf" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.R. CREGAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Kavel</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Police, Emergency Services and Correctional Services</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Special Minister of State</name>
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        <text id="202405029d5d618c9ef2401280000465">
          <by role="member" id="5382" referenceid="a772f8900bee436db277192229c352bf">The Hon. D.R. CREGAN:</by>  Well, I'm not sure that's necessarily the question.</text>
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          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
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      <talker role="member" id="5382" referenceid="a772f8900bee436db277192229c352bf" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.R. CREGAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Kavel</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Police, Emergency Services and Correctional Services</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Special Minister of State</name>
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        <text id="202405029d5d618c9ef2401280000467">
          <by role="member" id="5382" referenceid="a772f8900bee436db277192229c352bf">The Hon. D.R. CREGAN:</by>  No, no, that isn't the question. The question is going to be this—</text>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202405029d5d618c9ef2401280000468">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Morialta on a point of order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4343" referenceid="98bc9886f8ef4f70897848c1d1c59c00">
        <name>The Hon. J.A.W. GARDNER</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Morialta</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Deputy Leader of the Opposition</name>
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        </portfolios>
        <text id="202405029d5d618c9ef2401280000469">
          <by role="member" id="4343" referenceid="98bc9886f8ef4f70897848c1d1c59c00">The Hon. J.A.W. GARDNER:</by>  Thank you, sir. The question was whether the minister will release publicly recommendations from this review he has talked about. Standing order 98.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202405029d5d618c9ef2401280000470">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I bring the minister back to the substance.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5382" referenceid="a772f8900bee436db277192229c352bf" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.R. CREGAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Kavel</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Police, Emergency Services and Correctional Services</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Special Minister of State</name>
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        </portfolios>
        <text id="202405029d5d618c9ef2401280000471">
          <by role="member" id="5382" referenceid="a772f8900bee436db277192229c352bf">The Hon. D.R. CREGAN:</by>  Very well. Let me share this very important context with the house in relation to the consultation process, evidenced from another place:</text>
        <text id="202405029d5d618c9ef2401280000472">
          <inserted>Concerns were raised with the association back in June 2020 in relation to the way CFS was managing the discipline process. We then met with the Chief Officer of the time, Mark Jones. We also raised the issues with two previous ministers—</inserted>
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        <text continued="true" id="202405029d5d618c9ef2401280000473">two previous ministers—</text>
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          <inserted>in relation to our concerns and our request that the process be reviewed.</inserted>
        </text>
        <text continued="true" id="202405029d5d618c9ef2401280000475">This part is particularly important, I think. I will emphasise it to the house by way of context:</text>
        <text id="202405029d5d618c9ef2401280000476">
          <inserted>At that stage, absolutely nothing happened. We have continued to lobby and push for a review of the discipline process and in August of this year—</inserted>
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        <text continued="true" id="202405029d5d618c9ef2401280000477">that is, last year—</text>
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          <inserted>we have actually had an undertaking that the review will occur and has commenced.</inserted>
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        <text id="202405029d5d618c9ef2401280000479">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="6888" referenceid="1b23b655d40349f8a472b7b9eeba16df">Mr Telfer interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5382" referenceid="a772f8900bee436db277192229c352bf" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.R. CREGAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Kavel</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Police, Emergency Services and Correctional Services</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Special Minister of State</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
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          <by role="member" id="5382" referenceid="a772f8900bee436db277192229c352bf">The Hon. D.R. CREGAN:</by>  That's a thoughtful, careful and important process, one you couldn't deliver; and there will be new regulations put on the table. But can I say, in relation to an earlier point put to me about the judgement that might be brought to bear on all of us, the question will not be the one that was put by the member for Flinders, it will be this: who is the better government? And another question will be: are you an alternative government?</text>
        <text id="202405029d5d618c9ef2401280000481">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="5382" referenceid="a772f8900bee436db277192229c352bf" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.R. CREGAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Kavel</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Police, Emergency Services and Correctional Services</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Special Minister of State</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <text id="202405029d5d618c9ef2401280000482">
          <by role="member" id="5382" referenceid="a772f8900bee436db277192229c352bf">The Hon. D.R. CREGAN:</by>  Are you an alternative minister?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202405029d5d618c9ef2401280000483">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The minister will resume his seat. The member for Morialta on a point of order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4343" referenceid="98bc9886f8ef4f70897848c1d1c59c00">
        <name>The Hon. J.A.W. GARDNER</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Morialta</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Deputy Leader of the Opposition</name>
          </portfolio>
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        <text id="202405029d5d618c9ef2401280000484">
          <by role="member" id="4343" referenceid="98bc9886f8ef4f70897848c1d1c59c00">The Hon. J.A.W. GARDNER:</by>  I barely know where to start, sir. That was extraordinary. Let's go with standing order 98.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="202405029d5d618c9ef2401280000485">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I think the minister may have completed his answer. The member for MacKillop.</text>
      </talker>
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