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  <date date="2024-04-10T10:30:00+09:30" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Fifth Parliament, First Session (55-1)</sessionName>
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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Transition to Home Scheme</name>
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        <heading>Transition to Home Scheme</heading>
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        <name>Mr TELFER</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Flinders</electorate>
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          <question date="2024-04-10T01:00:00+09:30">
            <name>Transition to Home Scheme</name>
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          <by role="member" id="6888" referenceid="1b23b655d40349f8a472b7b9eeba16df">Mr TELFER (Flinders) (14:47):</by>  My question is to the Minister for Human Services. How many individuals have been supported into permanent out-of-hospital disability housing under the department's Transition to Home scheme since April 2022? With your leave, sir, and that of the house, I will explain.</text>
        <text id="20240410dcef9c3542094d8b80000551">Leave granted.</text>
      </talker>
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        <name>Mr TELFER</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Flinders</electorate>
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          <by role="member" id="6888" referenceid="1b23b655d40349f8a472b7b9eeba16df">Mr TELFER:</by>  The previous Liberal government facilitated the transition of 134 patients out of long-term hospital care in April 2022 and into alternative temporary facilities, including at St Margaret's centre, Semaphore, and other facilities near Noarlunga Hospital as part of the Transition to Home scheme. The next step was designed to have them move into permanent out-of-hospital housing.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4978" referenceid="368de1362390438688364d1b4dfc2b82" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. N.F. COOK</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Hurtle Vale</electorate>
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            <name>Minister for Human Services</name>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Seniors and Ageing Well</name>
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          <by role="member" id="4978" referenceid="368de1362390438688364d1b4dfc2b82">The Hon. N.F. COOK (Hurtle Vale—Minister for Human Services) (14:47):</by>  I thank the member for the question. In terms of accurate numbers, I am happy to get back to the member with the answer to that. Needless to say, when we came into government there were literally hundreds of people stuck in hospital and some of them had been in hospital for months and months and up to a year—even longer than a year, I understand, in some cases. Not only that, we know that the standard of governance and the clinical practice processes—</text>
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          <event kind="interjection">An honourable member interjecting:</event>
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      <talker role="member" id="4978" referenceid="368de1362390438688364d1b4dfc2b82" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. N.F. COOK</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Hurtle Vale</electorate>
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            <name>Minister for Human Services</name>
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            <name>Minister for Seniors and Ageing Well</name>
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          <by role="member" id="4978" referenceid="368de1362390438688364d1b4dfc2b82">The Hon. N.F. COOK:</by>  —you might learn something—around the care and support of these complex individuals in an environment designed for hospital care was completely substandard. There had been numerous complaints made by people within the Transition to Home pathway and their family members through the department and through other agencies, including the Health and Community Services Complaints Commissioner. These were serious complaints. Some of them had been made public.</text>
        <text id="20240410dcef9c3542094d8b80000556">I won't speak about individual cases but some of them were quite sickening in terms of the descriptors about the failure of clinical practice processes that were in place under the previous government in a system that was established by their ministerial colleagues. Since coming in, we triggered a review of that. It was an independent review. The lead on that review was the highly respected Christine Dennis, who undertook the review of clinical practice and governance.</text>
        <text id="20240410dcef9c3542094d8b80000557">I put in place, with our department, people who would support that review and ensure that there were rigorous clinical practice processes that ensured the safety, dignity and care of those people within that environment. We proceeded to move the location of the southern section of Transition to Home down to Noarlunga, to an area that had been previously closed by the previous government and lay idle: a new, high-quality environment for support and care which we use to transition dozens of people out into the community.</text>
        <text id="20240410dcef9c3542094d8b80000558">We continue to see numbers flow through the Transition to Home program. These numbers are much, much lower than what they were. We have worked really hard with the federal government to drop, reduce and prevent barriers being put in place to discharge and to funding these people who require shorter term accommodation under the NDIS—those barriers that were in place under the previous state Liberal government and the federal Coalition government, under an NDIS that was constantly failing people who were complex and needing movement out of hospital.</text>
        <text id="20240410dcef9c3542094d8b80000559">The whole process to actually assess, respond to and put in place services for people who had higher needs and who were stuck languishing in hospital failed under the state Liberal government—</text>
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          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
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        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
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          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="4978" referenceid="368de1362390438688364d1b4dfc2b82" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. N.F. COOK</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Hurtle Vale</electorate>
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            <name>Minister for Human Services</name>
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            <name>Minister for Seniors and Ageing Well</name>
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          <by role="member" id="4978" referenceid="368de1362390438688364d1b4dfc2b82">The Hon. N.F. COOK:</by>  —and the federal Coalition. Thankfully, we have worked across—</text>
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          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
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        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
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          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Schubert!</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="4978" referenceid="368de1362390438688364d1b4dfc2b82" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. N.F. COOK</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Hurtle Vale</electorate>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Human Services</name>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Seniors and Ageing Well</name>
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          <by role="member" id="4978" referenceid="368de1362390438688364d1b4dfc2b82">The Hon. N.F. COOK:</by>  —a newer system. We have seen a refresh and a renew of the federal NDIS in terms of the processes, and we see more to come.</text>
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          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20240410dcef9c3542094d8b80000567">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Unley! Member for Schubert! Member for Chaffey!</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="4978" referenceid="368de1362390438688364d1b4dfc2b82" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. N.F. COOK</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Hurtle Vale</electorate>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Human Services</name>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Seniors and Ageing Well</name>
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          <by role="member" id="4978" referenceid="368de1362390438688364d1b4dfc2b82">The Hon. N.F. COOK:</by>  There are much fewer people now stuck in hospital longer term. The number is in the dozens rather than the hundreds, and we continue to ensure that those people are managed with dignity and using best practice clinical guidelines.</text>
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