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  <date date="2023-11-29T10:30:00+10:30" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Fifth Parliament, First Session (55-1)</sessionName>
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  <proceeding>
    <name>Question Time</name>
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      <heading>Question Time</heading>
    </text>
    <subject>
      <name>Defence Naval Shipbuilding</name>
      <text id="2023112989a7e4534dcd486280000599">
        <heading>Defence Naval Shipbuilding</heading>
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      <talker role="member" id="4837" referenceid="40abd06ec15a40b1995c1130588dc41e" kind="question">
        <name>The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Black</electorate>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Leader of the Opposition</name>
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        <questions>
          <question date="2023-11-29T00:00:00+10:30">
            <name>Defence Naval Shipbuilding</name>
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        <startTime time="2023-11-29T14:25:29+10:30" />
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          <by role="member" id="4837" referenceid="40abd06ec15a40b1995c1130588dc41e">The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS (Black—Leader of the Opposition) (14:25):</by>  My question is to the Acting Premier. Can the Acting Premier update the house on how the government will achieve continuous shipbuilding in South Australia, including how many Hunter class frigates will be built here? With your leave, sir, and that of the house, I will explain.</text>
        <text id="2023112989a7e4534dcd486280000601">Leave granted.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4837" referenceid="40abd06ec15a40b1995c1130588dc41e" kind="question" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Black</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Leader of the Opposition</name>
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          <by role="member" id="4837" referenceid="40abd06ec15a40b1995c1130588dc41e">The Hon. D.J. SPEIRS:</by>  <term>The Australian</term> reported on 23 November 2023 that the federal government's surface fleet review is set to cut the Navy's Hunter order from nine ships to six, or perhaps as few as three.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4622" referenceid="aa45c8bc1b33484c8becbf1c17397e74" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. S.E. CLOSE</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Port Adelaide</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Deputy Premier</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Industry, Innovation and Science</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Defence and Space Industries</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Climate, Environment and Water</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Workforce and Population Strategy</name>
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        <startTime time="2023-11-29T14:26:05+10:30" />
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          <by role="member" id="4622" referenceid="aa45c8bc1b33484c8becbf1c17397e74">The Hon. S.E. CLOSE (Port Adelaide—Deputy Premier, Minister for Industry, Innovation and Science, Minister for Defence and Space Industries, Minister for Climate, Environment and Water) (14:26):</by>  I do feel somewhat <term>Groundhog Da</term>y with the number of times that this question has essentially been identically asked—</text>
        <text id="2023112989a7e4534dcd486280000604">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2023112989a7e4534dcd486280000605">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4622" referenceid="aa45c8bc1b33484c8becbf1c17397e74" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.E. CLOSE</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Port Adelaide</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Deputy Premier</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Industry, Innovation and Science</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Defence and Space Industries</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Climate, Environment and Water</name>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Workforce and Population Strategy</name>
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          <by role="member" id="4622" referenceid="aa45c8bc1b33484c8becbf1c17397e74">The Hon. S.E. CLOSE:</by>  —but nonetheless I am always happy to talk about frigates and continuous shipbuilding. Now of course, as every person in this chamber understands, the procurers of the ships that are being built at Osborne are the Australian government. They have undertaken a review following up on the DSR. The DSR said that there ought to be, as a recommendation, continuous shipbuilding. The federal government has not only accepted that recommendation but also said that that continuous shipbuilding would occur at Osborne.</text>
        <text id="2023112989a7e4534dcd486280000607">Subsequently, though, there has been the review into the kind of ships, the type of ships that are most suitable for the surface ship fleet, given the shift from one form of submarines to another form of submarines—being the nuclear submarines, which, because they have different capabilities subsurface, can imply different capabilities may be required on the surface to back them up.</text>
        <text id="2023112989a7e4534dcd486280000608">That review has, of course, been completed and been provided to the federal government. We are awaiting their response. As has been said many times, but I will repeat again, both the Premier and I have urged the federal government to give that response as soon as possible but we are, of course, not in a position to give it for them.</text>
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        <text id="2023112989a7e4534dcd486280000609">What we have been assured by, though, is the repetition not only of the expectation that there will be continuous shipbuilding at Osborne but also the repudiation of the rumours that went around that were, perhaps embraced is too strong a word, perhaps it isn't, by members of the opposition, who suggested that the entire Hunter class fleet building would be moved over to Glasgow. The federal government has ruled that out. These kinds of rumours, while they can be very exciting—particularly when you are not in government—can do tremendous harm to the confidence of not only South Australians generally—</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="4840" referenceid="7be4bfb1b1dd4eaaae45edf2f9c24e36" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. V.A. Tarzia</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Hartley</electorate>
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          <by role="member" id="4840" referenceid="7be4bfb1b1dd4eaaae45edf2f9c24e36">The Hon. V.A. Tarzia:</by>  You know what would be better? An announcement. An announcement would be great.</text>
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        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2023112989a7e4534dcd486280000611">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order, member for Hartley!</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="4622" referenceid="aa45c8bc1b33484c8becbf1c17397e74" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.E. CLOSE</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Port Adelaide</electorate>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Deputy Premier</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Industry, Innovation and Science</name>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Defence and Space Industries</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Climate, Environment and Water</name>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Workforce and Population Strategy</name>
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          <by role="member" id="4622" referenceid="aa45c8bc1b33484c8becbf1c17397e74">The Hon. S.E. CLOSE:</by>  —but specifically those companies that are investing in the supply chain in order to supply these ships. It is uncertain because there is a review, but the certainty is given to us by the continuous build that has been promised by the federal government, committed to by the federal government.</text>
        <text id="2023112989a7e4534dcd486280000613">What is unhelpful in this context is for the opposition to continuously, and perhaps joyfully, indicate that there are a wild variety of different possibilities for the build, including, as I say, this rumour that went around—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4343" referenceid="98bc9886f8ef4f70897848c1d1c59c00" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. J.A.W. Gardner</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Morialta</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Deputy Leader of the Opposition</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <text id="2023112989a7e4534dcd486280000614">
          <by role="member" id="4343" referenceid="98bc9886f8ef4f70897848c1d1c59c00">The Hon. J.A.W. Gardner:</by>  Reassure us, because it was in the paper.</text>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2023112989a7e4534dcd486280000615">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4622" referenceid="aa45c8bc1b33484c8becbf1c17397e74" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.E. CLOSE</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Port Adelaide</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Deputy Premier</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Industry, Innovation and Science</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Defence and Space Industries</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Climate, Environment and Water</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Workforce and Population Strategy</name>
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          <by role="member" id="4622" referenceid="aa45c8bc1b33484c8becbf1c17397e74">The Hon. S.E. CLOSE:</by>  Yes, as was building in Glasgow.</text>
        <text id="2023112989a7e4534dcd486280000617">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2023112989a7e4534dcd486280000618">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
        <text id="2023112989a7e4534dcd486280000619">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2023112989a7e4534dcd486280000620">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order! Member for Florey! Member for Hartley!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4622" referenceid="aa45c8bc1b33484c8becbf1c17397e74" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. S.E. CLOSE</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Port Adelaide</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Deputy Premier</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Industry, Innovation and Science</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Defence and Space Industries</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Climate, Environment and Water</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Workforce and Population Strategy</name>
          </portfolio>
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        <text id="2023112989a7e4534dcd486280000621">
          <by role="member" id="4622" referenceid="aa45c8bc1b33484c8becbf1c17397e74">The Hon. S.E. CLOSE:</by>  Of course, what is important is less the question of the number of frigates and more the question of if not frigates then what else is being built? As has been long understood, if frigates are not viewed through this—it is not news unless you haven't being paying attention. The question is whether frigates are the right ship to back up the submarines, what the number is and what alternatives might be being considered. We eagerly await the federal government's response.</text>
      </talker>
    </subject>
  </proceeding>
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