<!--The Official Report of Parliamentary Debates (Hansard) of the Legislative Council and the House of Assembly of the Parliament of South Australia are covered by parliamentary privilege. Republication by others is not afforded the same protection and may result in exposure to legal liability if the material is defamatory. You may copy and make use of excerpts of proceedings where (1) you attribute the Parliament as the source, (2) you assume the risk of liability if the manner of your use is defamatory, (3) you do not use the material for the purpose of advertising, satire or ridicule, or to misrepresent members of Parliament, and (4) your use of the extracts is fair, accurate and not misleading. Copyright in the Official Report of Parliamentary Debates is held by the Attorney-General of South Australia.-->
<hansard id="" tocId="" xml:lang="EN-AU" schemaVersion="4.0" xsi:noNamespaceSchemaLocation="hansard_1_0.xsd" xmlns:xlink="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2007/XMLSchema-instance" xmlns:mml="http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML">
  <name>House of Assembly</name>
  <date date="2023-09-27T10:30:00+09:30" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Fifth Parliament, First Session (55-1)</sessionName>
  <parliamentNum>55</parliamentNum>
  <sessionNum>1</sessionNum>
  <parliamentName>Parliament of South Australia</parliamentName>
  <house>House of Assembly</house>
  <venue></venue>
  <reviewStage>published</reviewStage>
  <startPage num="5455" />
  <endPage num="5533" />
  <dateModified time="2024-07-24T14:49:39+09:30" />
  <proceeding continued="true">
    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Keolis Downer</name>
      <text id="20230927cea8bbd15a3b4c3090000710">
        <heading>Keolis Downer</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="4840" referenceid="7be4bfb1b1dd4eaaae45edf2f9c24e36" kind="question">
        <name>The Hon. V.A. TARZIA</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Hartley</electorate>
        <questions>
          <question date="2023-09-27T01:00:00+09:30">
            <name>Keolis Downer</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2023-09-27T15:00:43+09:30" />
        <text id="20230927cea8bbd15a3b4c3090000711">
          <timeStamp time="2023-09-27T15:00:43+09:30" />
          <by role="member" id="4840" referenceid="7be4bfb1b1dd4eaaae45edf2f9c24e36">The Hon. V.A. TARZIA (Hartley) (15:00):</by>  My question again is to the Minister for Infrastructure and Transport. Did the minister receive any advice from the Department for Infrastructure and Transport advising him that Keolis Downer had failed to provide an adequate or acceptable level of service? If so, what was that advice?</text>
        <text id="20230927cea8bbd15a3b4c3090000712">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5084" referenceid="5e4189c3f09746759e26a644a9e66bcf">The Hon. P.B. Malinauskas interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20230927cea8bbd15a3b4c3090000713">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order! The Premier is called to order. The minister has the call.</text>
        <text id="20230927cea8bbd15a3b4c3090000714">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4339" referenceid="578eb1a82ef14e8ab4261939b72f9549">Mr Whetstone interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20230927cea8bbd15a3b4c3090000715">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Member for Chaffey! The minister has the call.</text>
        <text id="20230927cea8bbd15a3b4c3090000716">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20230927cea8bbd15a3b4c3090000717">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:  Order!</by>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">West Torrens</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Infrastructure and Transport</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Energy and Mining</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <startTime time="2023-09-27T15:01:12+09:30" />
        <text id="20230927cea8bbd15a3b4c3090000718">
          <timeStamp time="2023-09-27T15:01:12+09:30" />
          <by role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS (West Torrens—Minister for Infrastructure and Transport, Minister for Energy and Mining) (15:01):</by>  I received advice from a higher source: the people of South Australia. The people of South Australia outrank the Department for Infrastructure and Transport. They outrank all of us. They are our bosses. We work for them, and they were unequivocal in their expectation that we return these privatised services to public hands. They demand that we do it. They don't just ask for it; they demand it. They were robbed when this was privatised out from under them without their permission.</text>
        <text id="20230927cea8bbd15a3b4c3090000719">No-one at the 2018 election thought that our trams and trains were at risk of privatisation. Why? Because both Jay Weatherill and the former Premier, the current member for Dunstan, promised at the 2018 election that there would be no privatisations. They were robbed; they were robbed. So the answer to my young friend's question—</text>
        <text id="20230927cea8bbd15a3b4c3090000720">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20230927cea8bbd15a3b4c3090000721">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">West Torrens</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Infrastructure and Transport</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Energy and Mining</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <text id="20230927cea8bbd15a3b4c3090000722">
          <by role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  —is that I answer to a higher authority, and that higher authority—</text>
        <text id="20230927cea8bbd15a3b4c3090000723">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20230927cea8bbd15a3b4c3090000724">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order! Member for Colton!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">West Torrens</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Infrastructure and Transport</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Energy and Mining</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <text id="20230927cea8bbd15a3b4c3090000725">
          <by role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  —is the people of South Australia, who want this service back in public hands. However, if there is an alternative view—</text>
        <text id="20230927cea8bbd15a3b4c3090000726">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20230927cea8bbd15a3b4c3090000727">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order! Member for Chaffey!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">West Torrens</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Infrastructure and Transport</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Energy and Mining</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <text id="20230927cea8bbd15a3b4c3090000728">
          <by role="member" id="633" referenceid="daab39c192204b0f88930f68be57ad22">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  —the alternative view that this should remain in private hands and it should be privatised again after it is brought back into public hands, then say so. Have the courage of your convictions to get up and say that the private sector can do it better. Get up and tell people that you will be privatising our trains and trams again. Get up and say it! Have the courage to do it. Have the courage to lead. Vince, get up and lead!</text>
        <text id="20230927cea8bbd15a3b4c3090000729">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20230927cea8bbd15a3b4c3090000730">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER</by>:  Order!</text>
      </talker>
    </subject>
  </proceeding>
</hansard>